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22681 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

Chris Brooke wrote: >According to Gary Younge in the Guardian, it's Dude, Where's My Country? > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/michaelmoore/story/0,13947,1055591,00.html Three relevant paragraphs from which... >Between the man in print and the man in person, there are definite >similarities. Face to face, Moore is funny. When I mention his >Arsenal cap, he breaks into an impersonation of the Clock End >singing opera tunes in praise of Patrick Vieira (he's been to a >match or ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 12:44:46 PDT 2004

22682 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

Luke Weiger wrote: >I don't think "Saudi money" has any racist connotations, even if "Israeli >money" does. But who ever speaks of "Israeli money"? It's always "Jewish money" if its anything. >(Now, to address a point Cox made some time ago: the world contains not only >incompetent tool users but also defective tools. Critiquing defective tools >isn't necessarily an idle practice. Such critique often leads to the >creation of better too ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 12:22:08 PDT 2004

22683 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

Liza Featherstone wrote: >it risks a >similar racism, but when we make clear we are talking about the Saudi >elites, who effectively do run the country, I think it is acceptable. I >think Moore in his film did do that, especially with the shots of Bush >senior cavorting with the Saudi ruling class. It's not like the rest of the film trafficks in hostile caricatures of Arabs, either. We're meant to sympathize with the Iraqi woman whose house was blown up, and with the many other I ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 12:12:41 PDT 2004

22684 [lbo-talk] capitalization policy -- rank: 1000

[Someone forwarded my query about capitalizing Black but not white to Max Elbaum, ex of the defunct Crossroads magazine, who responded as follows. I've got to say I don't get the logic; the "races" white and black were produced in opposition to each other; why one is a nationality and the other not is mysterious to me, but I know it's an old CP stance. Seems like a case of trying to undo four centuries of oppression with a shift key.] I recall your e-mail query back when and I definite ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 11:35:45 PDT 2004

22685 [lbo-talk] Michael Moore and Richard Perle Combine Forces: -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >Michael Moore and Richard Perle Combine Forces: > >Who Really Wants to Invade Saudi Arabia, and Why? All this makes me want to re-read Lenin's "Left Communism: An Infantile Disorder." (Is he "McCarthyite" for having written it?) Doug

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 10:36:15 PDT 2004

22686 [lbo-talk] Murdoch, working reporter -- rank: 1000

[another Romenesko letter] Murdoch was a regular tipster, says ex-NYPer 7/12/2004 7:12:41 AM From DAN COX: It's not surprising that the New York Times claims Rupert Murdoch tipped off his own paper re: the VP debacle. And I suppose it's not that surprising that he's denying it. He is a private guy, after all. However, it should be mentioned that when I was the senior media reporter at the Post in 2002, barely a day went by when Murdoch didn't force feed items about his rival media moguls and the ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 10:33:28 PDT 2004

22687 [lbo-talk] Outfoxed: tip of the iceberg -- rank: 1000

[from Romenesko's letters] "Outfoxed" is only the tip of the iceberg 7/12/2004 10:33:17 AM From CHARLIE REINA: Please consider the following submission to your Letters section. As you may recall, you posted my letter last October about the FNC "Memo" and touched off a round of heated exchanges on the subject of cable news bias. (For the record, I was in no way involved in the making of "Outfoxed," either as an on-or-off-camera interviewee or as a supplier of FNC me ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 10:29:27 PDT 2004

22688 [lbo-talk] Terrorist logic -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >We're fighting a war to export "democracy" to Iraq Actually I thought Bush was careful not to use the word "democracy" to describe what the U.S. aimed to bring to Iraq. He used words like "liberty" and "freedom" instead - which could just mean a flat tax, no public services, and no environmental regs. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 10:21:50 PDT 2004

22689 [lbo-talk] Art and Politics -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Of course, that's Moore's way of saying that white American >working-class voters should vote out Bush, rather than getting >fooled by him again, but, if the viewer really thinks about the >tragic recurrence of the narrative of betrayal -- including >Fahrenheit 9/11 -- in American culture, the mangled old saying >becomes haunting, as Fahrenheit 9/11 is not likely to be the last >narrative of betrayal. 1) Why is Black capitalized and white not? I aske ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 06:41:47 PDT 2004

22690 [lbo-talk] a right-wing view of F911 -- rank: 1000

[This was just posted to LeMetropoleCafe.com, a mostly right-wig goldbug site.] Compassionate Conservatism and Fahrenheit 9/11 To the Editor, I actually am a compassionate conservative who, up until the revelations about the Justice Department being unsure what inalienable rights might be, had Bush stickers on his car. Fahrenheit 9/11 is definitely, clearly, and profoundly a documentary that provides a needed voice that has been missing from the public discourse. The mainstream media has been la ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 11 19:54:10 PDT 2004

22691 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

Just added to my radio archive <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>: July 8, 2004 Lakshman Achuthan of the Economic Cycles Research Institute and co-author of Beating the Business Cycle, on cycles in general, this odd one specifically, and the likely slowdown by yearend * Norman Kelley, author of The Head Negro In Charge Syndrome, on the crisis in black politics it joins -------- July 1, 2004 Phyllis Bennis, lead author of Paying the Price, on the human, economic, and environme ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 11 15:42:55 PDT 2004

22692 [lbo-talk] same-sexers in the polls -- rank: 1000

The American Enterprise Institute (!) has put together an overview of polls about same-sexers over the last 30 years: <http://www.aei.org/docLib/20040708_Homosexuality4.pdf>. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 11 14:51:16 PDT 2004

22693 [lbo-talk] felon voting list tossed -- rank: 1000

snit snat wrote: >Shocking! A glitch would have allowed convicted hispanics to vote! >SHOCKING! HOW could that happen!? Doncha love it that the list is being scrapped because it didn't exclude enough people, not because the process is deeply fucked? Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 11 12:57:33 PDT 2004

22694 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

Doug Henwood wrote: >Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > >>Leftists know enough to object to the hypothetical example as "the >>filthiest anti-Semitic gutter talk," but not enough to object to >>practically the same statement about Saudi money in a popular movie. >> >>Why the double standard? > >You've gone totally around the bend. Is it the ceaseless demands of >doing a blog? To elaborate a bit: Moore was talking about the Saudi elite, which runs an ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 11 12:50:52 PDT 2004

22695 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Leftists know enough to object to the hypothetical example as "the >filthiest anti-Semitic gutter talk," but not enough to object to >practically the same statement about Saudi money in a popular movie. > >Why the double standard? You've gone totally around the bend. Is it the ceaseless demands of doing a blog? Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 11 12:19:50 PDT 2004