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22666 [lbo-talk] Americas Vichy Left vs. Michael Moore -- rank: 1000

Stephen E Philion wrote: >Cooper delcared that the only people who would like the movie would be > seals clapping in the audience. But on his blog comment section, a good >number of positive reviews of the film came from commenters who were not >on the left at all. very interesting. also the film is being reported >around the country as having a good reception by vets, repubs., etc. Cooper used to denounce the weird, self-marginalizing Pacifica left. So then Moore comes along, ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jul 13 13:56:42 PDT 2004

22667 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

John Thornton wrote: >If you wish to give Moore the benefit of the doubt Why would you want to do that? He's successful, rich, and fat! Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jul 13 13:00:50 PDT 2004

22668 [lbo-talk] Bush's best-paid advisors mostly male -- rank: 1000

Washington Post - July 13, 2004 Leaked Salary List Shows Bush's Highest-Paid Staff Is Mostly Male By Dana Milbank With new White House salary figures leaked to The Washington Post and an Excel spreadsheet, crack researcher Margot Williams determined that men in the Bush White House earn an average of $76,624 a year. Women earn $59,917 on average. That means Bush women earn about 78 percent of what Bush men earn. As it happens, that's almost exactly the national average for the gap in pay between ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jul 13 11:39:31 PDT 2004

22669 [lbo-talk] Americas Vichy Left vs. Michael Moore -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Joseph Wanzala wrote: > >Joe W: In fact this is demonstrably not the case. Most radical >leftists are critiquing the film because it perpetuates the official >story on 9-11 and perpetuates the underlying thesis for Bush's and >perhaps soon to be Kerry's 'war on terror'. The 'people' have in >fact been listening to the sharp critiques of the official 9-11 >story and the war on terror for quite some time now, 'Bush knew' >signs are ubiquitous at demonstati ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jul 13 11:31:45 PDT 2004

22670 [lbo-talk] another Moore critic -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - July 13, 2004 MOORE CAN'T FOOL THE WHO MICHAEL Moore messed with the wrong rocker when he charged that The Who's Pete Townshend refused to allow his classic hit "Won't Get Fooled Again" to be used in "Fahrenheit 9/11." Biting back on his Web site, Townshend said the reason the song wasn't used was not because he was for the war in Iraq (which he admits he was), but because he doesn't trust Moore's accuracy in reporting and regards Moore as a bully. ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jul 13 10:45:34 PDT 2004

22671 [lbo-talk] Fox fights back -- rank: 1000

Editor & Publisher - July 12, 2004 Fox Fights Back Against 'NY Times' Over Film Story Aya Kawano By E&P Staff NEW YORK At a well-attended press conference this afternoon in New York promoting the new documentary "Outfoxed," Fox News offered its rebuttal to the film, as well as a full-frontal attack on The New York Times, which published an article about the movie yesterday in its Sunday magazine. In a statement handed out at the press conference by an unidentified woman, Fox Ne ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jul 13 09:52:43 PDT 2004

22672 [lbo-talk] Americas Vichy Left vs. Michael Moore -- rank: 1000

Liza Featherstone wrote: >If the people are listening, the >message must not be worth hearing. How are we supposed to change anything if >we think that way? Maybe a lot of "us" don't want to change anything. As Ames concludes: >This story of how the elite of the intellectual Left was roused out >of their slumber and turned into a Vichy-uniformed mob out to lynch >the one Leftist who made it out of the ghetto is the best >illustration of why the Left is so marginali ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jul 13 09:42:10 PDT 2004

22673 [lbo-talk] Americas Vichy Left vs. Michael Moore -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >>From: Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> >> >>Backstabbers! >> >>America’s Vichy Left vs. Michael Moore >>By Mark Ames ( editor at exile.ru ) >> >>(snip) >> >>He has single-handedly managed to turn the Right-Wing >>brutocracy into a pack of whiny fags ... > >Yikes. A real gem for the With-Friends-Like-This-Who-Needs-Enemies >Collection. How like one of those hyperpure lefties Ames is skew ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 13 09:39:22 PDT 2004

22674 [lbo-talk] terrorists "a lot like us" -- rank: 1000

EXPERT SAYS AL-QAEDA TERRORISTS ARE "A LOT LIKE US" "The guys who did 9/11 were not lunatics from another planet, but were actually fairly normal", says terrorism expert Marc Sageman. Sageman, a counterterrorism adviser to the US government and author of "Understanding Terror Networks", spent two years poring over available data on individuals with direct or indirect links to al-Qaeda. Where terrorists are usually seen as being poor, single, ignorant and immature, a ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jul 13 09:26:19 PDT 2004

22675 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

Hey Yoshie, I got an idea - why don't you make the movie Michael Moore should have made? I'd really like to see it done right, and I'm sure all the millions of others who've bought tickets would too. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jul 13 07:09:58 PDT 2004

22676 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Any artifact, once completed, is simply itself. It can be stimulating to >thought to talk about what it does not do or does not 'contain,' and >perhaps can enhance perception of the artifact, but one then is also >talking about something that does not exist, the strictly hypothetical >artifact that is in some mystic way both the "same" as the one in front >of us and also a different 'thing.' I'm struck by the way you, as a retired professor of Engli ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jul 12 16:17:14 PDT 2004

22677 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >I will now bravely await Doug's admonition for my overposting. So administered. Your penance: reading the Judith Butler excerpt I posted, every word of it. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 15:56:02 PDT 2004

22678 [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >How about JINSA, the "Jewish Institute for National Security >Affairs, a non-profit, non-partisan educational organization >committed to explaining the need for a prudent national security >policy for the United States, addressing the security requirements >of both the United States and the State of Israel, and strengthening >the strategic cooperation relationship between these two great >democracies." ? Here the term 'Jewish' and "Israe ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jul 12 13:59:02 PDT 2004

22679 [lbo-talk] Re: market forms of "self-esteem" -- rank: 1000

frank scott wrote: >"...but the ATM makes the customer a part of the labor chain >even as she pays for the privilege..." > >i believe this began with self-service markets, doing away with clerks >and relying on customers to find items themselves... followed closely by >self-service gasoline stations, where you pump your own...this replaced >tons of workers, and the goods dealt with by "self" were not only the >same price, but usually more expensive in ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 13:00:50 PDT 2004

22680 [lbo-talk] Is this true? -- rank: 1000

Alan Jacobson wrote: >The English-language Al-Jazeera website reports that: > >"Of the $18.4bn Washington provided last year for >rebuilding Iraq, only $366m - about two per cent - has >been used, a White House report admitted on 28 June." > >Has anybody heard anything like this elsewhere? Soemthing like that, yes.

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Date:	Mon Jul 12 12:54:33 PDT 2004