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22606 [lbo-talk] LBO-talk Fundrace -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >My aspect and bearing are not unlike those of the famed Mr. C.: ><http://www.humorlinks.com/python/pictures/mean/62.html> I've met Carl several times, and that's compltely untrue, unless he's put on about 200 pounds in the last several months. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 12:59:07 PDT 2004

22607 [lbo-talk] Left Behind: Race and the Second Amendment -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Has anyone tried to arrive at some social breakdown of murders. There are a bunch of tables on victim-offender relationships at <http://www.albany.edu/sourcebook/1995/tost_3.html#3_aj>. Here's a summary I made, compressing some categories so it would fit on the screen. (E.g., close relative = spouse, parent, child, sibling; lover = boyfriend, girlfriend.) The column headings refer to the victim. "Felony type" refers to murders commmitted during the course of ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 12:57:44 PDT 2004

22608 [lbo-talk] Needed: A Head Count -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >The main reason for campaigning for anybody but Bush/Kerry is that the >final tally will provide a partial head count of our (the left's) >_immediate_* constituency, and that seems to me rather more important >than who occupies the White House next January 20. So you're setting up the same trap as Yoshie - "our" numbers will be small, very small. Who wants to do that? Why spin yourself unfavorably in advance? Many people, including almost all my left-wing ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 12:34:30 PDT 2004

22609 [lbo-talk] Left Behind: Race and the Second Amendment -- rank: 1000

Jordan Hayes wrote: >The key word in Doug's quip above is "we" -- Doug is not part of the >"violent crime class" in the US, and neither are a) most people and b) >most gun owners. It's a serious mistake to say "we" in that situation >in the same way that it's a mistake to say "we" when referring to >foreign policy initiatives (please stop saying "We killed some more >civilians in Iraq today"). I'm using "we" to reflec ...

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22610 [lbo-talk] 2d Amendment/Rule of Law (Was: The curse of literacy) -- rank: 1000

andie nachgeborenen wrote: >As it presently interpreted by every federal Appeals >Court that has weighed in, under the authority of US >v. Miller (S.Ct 1937), the 2d Amendment does not give >private individuals a right to bear arms, but only in >the context of a "well-regulated militia." The courts >regularly dismiss law suits brought by right wing gun >nuts arguing the contrary. Dan Lazare had a piece in Harper's some years ago arguing that based on the legislativ ...

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22611 [lbo-talk] Left Behind: Race and the Second Amendment -- rank: 1000

Jordan Hayes wrote: >Of all the criticisms of Michael Moore I've read, none have touched on >this: he encountered real questions about The Gun Issue and >contradictions of Common Knowledge but instead of exploring them more, >he sort of shrugs and says: huh, weird. In an interview on the DVD version he says he changed his mind as he went along making the movie, and really didn't seem to know for sure what he thought. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 09:11:34 PDT 2004

22612 [lbo-talk] after the marriage amendment failure... -- rank: 1000

The Hill - July 15, 2004 New GOP gay-ban tactics Court powers could be taken away, says majority leader By Jonathan E. Kaplan Realizing that a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage faces little chance of passing soon, if ever, House Republicans yesterday discussed alternative approaches, including stripping federal courts of jurisdiction over the issue, passing a federal law to define marriage and using the appropriations process to ban gay marriage in Washington. All the legislative act ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 07:51:19 PDT 2004

22613 [lbo-talk] Left Behind: Race and the Second Amendment -- rank: 1000

dano wrote: >At 6:02 PM -0700 7/17/04, Jordan Hayes wrote: >>'Liberals and leftists' that I know who support the 2nd largely keep >>their mouths shut about it at cocktail parties. > >And forums like this I expect. I don't know whether I qualify as a supporter of the second amendment, but I'm a lot less obsessed with gun control than many leftists, and am not unpersuaded by the argument that giving the state a monopoly over weapons is a bad idea. (Litotes is meant to suggest ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 07:42:05 PDT 2004

22614 [lbo-talk] LBO-talk Fundrace -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >If we are talking about mathematics, what we are doing politically >-- giving time or money or both or nothing -- is irrelevant, but if >we are talking about domestic politics, that seems to me to be >highly relevant information. Why should I care about your opinion >if you do not think that your opinion is good enough for you to act >on it? As I recall, you're a citizen of Japan, and not the U.S. Since you can't vote, why should anyone care about your ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 07:38:23 PDT 2004

22615 [lbo-talk] Re: Ltr. to the Black Caucus -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >A letter to the Black Caucus from a Black woman living in South Central >Filed under: >by Donna J. Warren, San Francisco Bay View Yoshie already posted this. There's enough Nader-related volume already without duplicating material. Doug

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Date:	Sat Jul 17 09:38:51 PDT 2004

22616 [lbo-talk] Gitten' Dem (Rich) Aaayrabs -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >Well, it looks like Michael Moore's Democratic Party multicultural >tag-a-long troop on the All-American Crusader Posse Comitatus Arab >Killing Lynch Mob Do you think this is funny, or is there some actual empirical content to it?

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Date:	Sat Jul 17 09:32:32 PDT 2004

22617 [lbo-talk] Dumping Ubu/Dickhead -- rank: 1000

snit snat wrote: >Yeah, but if they all live in DemSafeStates, big whoop! Hey, and a couple of my classmates live in ... France! But I was looking at this, like the Andover anecdote, as a measure of elite opinion, which looks to be turning against W. If this continues, I'd expect to see increasingly hostile press coverage in the coming months. Doug

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Date:	Sat Jul 17 09:29:16 PDT 2004

22618 [lbo-talk] LBO-talk Fundrace -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >Anecdote of the day: I was having lunch with my best friend; a >friend of hers, a humble poor RN (named Joan) recently inherited >300,000 from her aunt. They had been close for many years. The aunt >also happened to be Robert DeNiro's mother. Robert decided to sue >Joan, claiming undue influence and asking for the $$ himself. After >putting Joan to a lot of trouble, I'm glad to say, he lost the >lawsuit. > >Do you think Robert De Niro needed 300,00 ...

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22619 [lbo-talk] LBO-talk Fundrace -- rank: 1000

John Thornton wrote: >You offend more than just Brad when you point out somebodies weight >as something to be ridiculed. I don't like enforcing speech codes, but if you're going to criticize Brad, or Michael Moore, or anyone else, please do so on the basis of substance and not avoirdupois. Doug

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Date:	Sat Jul 17 09:21:25 PDT 2004

22620 [lbo-talk] Dumping Ubu/Dickhead -- rank: 1000

Shane Mage wrote: >An item in yesterday's NY Observer: > >"...Word of the latest fiasco comes from a friend who went to >Andover with him and recently attended their 40th reunion. >George wasn't there, but 40 of his classmates were, nearly all >upper-income bracketed--natural Bush voters, in other words. >My friend says that a straw poll was taken to see how many >would be voting for their fellow alum in November. > >Wanna know how many Dubya got? > >Six. ...

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