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22351 [lbo-talk] re: grist for the culture angst mill -- rank: 1000

dano wrote: >Didn't corporate agribusiness get boosted during those times too? When hasn't it? But food prices rose at the same pace as did broad inflation in the 1960s; faster than broad inflation in the 1970s; but food prices fell relative to averages in the 1980s and 1990s. Doug

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Date:	Fri Jun 11 07:50:25 PDT 2004

22352 [lbo-talk] Why do people vote against their interests? P.J. O'Rourke explains -- rank: 1000

While there are some poorer white men who vote Rep for cultural reasons, we shouldn't forget that votes do broadly correlate with income. Here's the breakdown from the 2000 election: Gore Bush Buchanan Nader <15,000 57% 37% 1% 4% 15,000-30,000 54% 41% 1% 3% 30,000-50,000 49% 48% 0% 2% 50,000-75,000 46% 51% 0% 2% 75,000-100,000 45% 52% 0% 2% 10 ...

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Date:	Fri Jun 11 07:27:49 PDT 2004

22353 [lbo-talk] Why do people vote against their interests? P.J. O'Rourke explains -- rank: 1000

Dwayne Monroe wrote: >So although itís true Walmart can make your life >miserable, they canít proclaim you to be an ëenemy >combatantí and remove you in shackles, facing the >business end of an M441, to Gitmo or charge you with >tax evasion and dispatch legal and police enforcers >after youÖ and so on. But it's the Reps that created Gitmo and the doctrine of unlawful combatants! Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jun 11 07:19:52 PDT 2004

22354 [lbo-talk] Ronnie's very timely death -- rank: 1000

Jon Johanning wrote: >For the whole eight long -- looooooong -- years of his reign, I was >constantly mystified by the adulation showered on that sucker by (it >seemed) nearly the entire country. But, as Rick Perlstein pointed out on my radio show yesterday, the myth of Reagan's popularity is a successful creation of that vast right-wing conspiracy. His approval ratings were virtually identical to Clinton's. Lots of people hated him. Don't concede his vast popularity - it's a lie. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jun 11 06:13:10 PDT 2004

22355 [lbo-talk] death in the USSR -- rank: 1000

Chris Dos - or anyone with some knowledge of this - could you ask some Soviet old-timers what it was like when Brezhnev died? Was there a week of force-fed mourning and hysterical canonization in every newspaper and broadcast outlet? Or are our nominally "private" and "free" media doing better work than the state media in a one-party state ever did? Doug

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Date:	Fri Jun 11 06:06:50 PDT 2004

22356 [lbo-talk] Bitch sub drive -- rank: 1000

The excellent Bitch magazine - "feminist responses to pop culture" - is on a subscription drive. If you don't you should. Info: At 1:50 AM -0400 6/11/04, Bitch Slap wrote: >* If you are not a subscriber already, become one today. Go to ><http:// www.bitchmagazine.com/order.shtml>, call us toll-free at >877-21-BITCH, or send a check for $15 to Bitch, 1611 Telegraph Ave >Ste. 515, Oakland CA 94612. (In Canada, a sub is US$25; elsewhere >outside the U.S., it's US$40. ...

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Date:	Fri Jun 11 05:57:15 PDT 2004

22357 [lbo-talk] AP: "Country music radio full of pro-war songs" -- rank: 1000

Dennis Perrin wrote: >Well, check this song, "Saddam Stomp": > ><http://www.pro-american.com/Music/Saddam_Stomp%20-%20Pat%20Garrett.mp3> > >And Clint Black's "Iraq and Roll": > ><http://www.uspatrioticpictures.com/music/iraqandroll.mp3> > >Humor's subjective, but I don't think I'm that far from the mark. Not after listening to these things. My god. "Take out the garbage/for the good old USA." Repulsive stuff. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jun 10 15:47:27 PDT 2004

22358 [lbo-talk] re: grist for the culture angst mill -- rank: 1000

Chuck Grimes wrote: >Something happened starting in the late 1970s. I blame Reagan. > >Doug > >---------- > >Close enough. Well I was partly joking, but what I meant was speedup, polarization, and alienation. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jun 10 15:36:51 PDT 2004

22359 [lbo-talk] BLS finds small loss to offshoring -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - June 11, 2004 U.S. Survey Finds Few Jobs Moving To Offshore Homes By MICHAEL SCHROEDER and JOSEPH REBELLO Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL WASHINGTON -- A new government outsourcing survey found a relatively small number of U.S. jobs are moving abroad, raising complaints that the report picked up only a fraction of the total number of jobs lost to outsourcing. The Labor Department also issued separate reports showing that prices paid for imported goods and jobless ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 10 15:35:53 PDT 2004

22360 [lbo-talk] Canada (was Fw: Greg Palast: Bye-Bye Ronnie Reagan -- Killer, Coward, Conman -- rank: 1000

snit snat wrote: >I don't see people predisposed to Shrub changing their minds. For >them, four more years of Shrub is way better than four more years of >Kerry. It's the fuck you "spite" vote mentioned in that article Carl >sent. I also don't see marginal voters getting terribly fired up >about Shrub, not enough to vote him out of office. I can go either way on this - just can't make up my mind. Here's something from Ruy Teixeira's latest. Doug ---- Independent Voters a ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 10 13:19:37 PDT 2004

22361 [lbo-talk] Canada (was Fw: Greg Palast: Bye-Bye Ronnie Reagan--Killer, Coward, Conman -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >So? People change their minds a lot, sometimes in the course of a single conversation. People often hold contradictory opinions too. I think you're projecting your own rigidity onto the larger world. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jun 10 12:09:45 PDT 2004

22362 [lbo-talk] Ronnie's very timely death -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick quoted: >Most unsettling of all is this comment from across the Atlantic: >Noting that RR and Bush have both similarities and differences, the >Economist states that "it is worth remembering that in the 1980s >many liberals thought that Mr Reagan was a weird aberration—a long >national daydream, to quote the title of a book from the period. >Today many liberals think the same about Mr Bush, hoping he will be >humiliated in November's election. But whatever h ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 10 10:17:52 PDT 2004

22363 [lbo-talk] Canada (was Fw: Greg Palast: Bye-Bye Ronnie Reagan --Killer, Coward, Conman -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: > > >snit snat wrote: >> >> At 09:39 AM 6/9/2004, Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> I don't see people predisposed to Shrub changing their minds. For them, >> four more years of Shrub is way better than four more years of Kerry. > >In the whole history of humanity, what proportion of the species (or of >any geographical sub-unit of the species) has changed its mind within a >time span of 10 years? Me, on being introduced to R. Emmet ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 10 10:14:29 PDT 2004

22364 [lbo-talk] defending the capitalist way of life -- rank: 1000

[from a bond market report by Briefing.com] Treasuries: The market continues its flattening run across the curve, with the 2-10-year spread off to 200.6 vs. 210.2 a week ago. The 2-30-year spread is at 266.9 against 278.9 a week back. The 10-years have been chipping away at the recent losses, but with the 10-year auction on deck, price pressures will continue. The market will continue to look for flight-to-quality bids ahead of the extended weekend. Friday will have other world markets up an ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 10 10:00:59 PDT 2004

22365 [lbo-talk] Ronnie's very timely death -- rank: 1000

Jeffrey Fisher wrote: > >On Thursday, June 10, 2004, at 10:44 AM, snit snat wrote: > >>The question is: will Scowcroft, Baker, and the rest actually _do_ >>something so the Republican party will lose this fall? They may not >>have any commitment to the neocons, but they probably will put the >>party above all that because, after all, it's about winning. >>Keeping the nation's political discourse oriented to the right is >>the goal. > >i don't kn ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 10 08:57:07 PDT 2004