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22186 [lbo-talk] the Freeper thread on 9/11 -- rank: 1000

[courtesy Michael Pollak] Linkname: Dale Earnhardt Jr wants blacklisted now? Say it ain't so! URL: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1161245/posts TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions KEYWORDS: DALEEARNHARDT; FARENHEIT911; FAT; GRATEFULDEAD; HOMOS; LIBERALS; MICHAELMOORE; NASCAR; RACING; SMOTHERSBROTHERS Posted on 06/27/2004 1:29:39 PM PDT by freegle Did you just hear them say that on Fox? that Dale Earnhardt Jr. says that, poli ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 28 21:08:38 PDT 2004

22187 [lbo-talk] Republicans for Nader -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: >http://www.tnr.com/etc.mhtml?pid=1774 >http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/005806.shtml >http://www.cse.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=863 At the last: >Washington, D.C. - Oregon CSE members are working to get Ralph >Nader on the November ballot! While this sounds completely >backwards-- Ralph Nader opposes nearly every issue CSE fights for-- >but there's sound logic behind Oregon CSE's actions. CSE does not >advocate the election or defeat ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 28 19:41:01 PDT 2004

22188 [lbo-talk] Comment on F-9/11 -- rank: 1000

R wrote: >these names aren't my rogues gallery. they're the black community's rogues >gallery. they are the black community's ronald reagans, jesse helms, strom >thurmonds, madelline albrights, et al. perhaps, all the analysis that's >necessary has been written. since us white folks have to deal with our >neaderthals, what's the plan in the black community to deal with yours? Why the fuck is it their racial duty? Am I supposed to do my bit for the downfall of W as a white guy ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 28 19:34:34 PDT 2004

22189 [lbo-talk] Vomitorium in NYC -- rank: 1000

<http://vomitorium2004.org/> VOMITORIUM 2004 MAKE ROOM FOR MORE A response to the New and Improved American Empire Vomitorium2004 is a theatrical performance, modeled after the opulent parties of the Roman Empire, where guests will engage in consuming astounding amounts of food, and when stuffed to the limit, vomit so that they may gorge themselves again and again. For one evening we will transport the participants and audience to those long-gone days in order to reflect on the fate that e ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 28 19:30:38 PDT 2004

22190 [lbo-talk] Fahrenheit 9-11 Tops Box Office -- rank: 1000

Jeffrey Fisher wrote: >huh. i wonder if that should be posted somewhere? post it here, no? is it an IP violation?

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 28 19:17:46 PDT 2004

22191 [lbo-talk] Green Party convention to the real world: Drop Dead! (Frontlines coverage) -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: >The demogreen "realo" faction at the stacked "electoral college" >Green Party Convention in Milwaukee has voted to deny Ralph Nader and >Peter Camejo its ballot lines by nominating shamefaced Kerry >supporter David Cobb for President. So what do our pro-Nader people make of this? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 27 08:36:58 PDT 2004

22192 [lbo-talk] End of Suburbia: Peak Oil -- rank: 1000

John Thornton wrote: >Isn't the problem more than when we reach the peak output will begin >to fall and drive the price up rather quickly more than we are about >to run out of oil? That's what they say. I'm willing to bet that that doesn't happen any time in the next ten years. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 27 08:32:52 PDT 2004

22193 [lbo-talk] End of Suburbia: Peak Oil -- rank: 1000

kjkhoo at softhome.net wrote: >True. But are we to dismiss the recent statement by one of the oil >majors, in response to talk about diminishing oil supplies, that the >reserves are good for another 40-50 years? > >More importantly, if there's a perception in policy circles that we >are or have hit peak oil -- although that recent publication from >Princeton UP seemed credible -- wouldn't this have a major influence >on policy and action? It might. But there's been talk o ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 27 08:31:56 PDT 2004

22194 [lbo-talk] Comment on F-9/11 -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >And if some Senators had agreed to challenge the certification, they still >would have lost the vote. So what? They should have put up a big fight to deny the evil creep any shred of legitimacy. Are there no limits to your capacity to apologize for Dems, or are they just more prominent in years divisible by 4? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 27 08:26:41 PDT 2004

22195 [lbo-talk] SEIU calls for end to occupation -- rank: 1000

[don't know what the exact source of this is...] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: June 22, 2004 SEIU, Nation's Largest Union, Calls for End to Occupation and Return of U.S. Troops Nearly 4000 delegates of Service Employees International Union (SEIU), the nation's largest with 1.6 million members, voted unanimously at the union's national convention in San Francisco today to end U.S. occupation of Iraq and to bring U.S. troops stationed there home. The strongly worded resolution pointed to military interve ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jun 26 12:01:51 PDT 2004

22196 [lbo-talk] End of Suburbia: Peak Oil -- rank: 1000

Curtiss Leung wrote: >Too bad. The peak oil hypothesis seems credible, and some >commentary on what it would mean for social life would be >good. Some day we will run out of oil. But we'll probably choke on the pollution before we burn it all. It seems really bad politics to make arguments from resource scarcity - arguments that have a long history of quickly proving wrong - rather than from the bad social and ecological effects of burning so much oil. Quite a few of the peak oil types ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jun 26 11:47:11 PDT 2004

22197 [lbo-talk] Unsustainable Statistical Recovery -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >Although rear-view mirror downward revisions have become de rigeur >for the U.S. Ministry of Finance, this first quarters' is >particularly egregious. I'm assuming "Ministry of Finance" is a "joke," but the revisions are neither unusual nor egregious. They're perfectly routine, and have been for decades. And the benchmark revisions to payroll employment have been much smaller in recent years than they used to be becuase of an improved birth/death m ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jun 26 11:10:22 PDT 2004

22198 [lbo-talk] Chomsky, Zinn and Nader/Camejo -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >For those who worship before the mighty phallus of American power: Right. You've nailed it. Do you think this sort of thing is politically constructive? Or does it just make you feel good? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jun 26 10:56:38 PDT 2004

22199 [lbo-talk] Support Nader in the Same Way as the Rope Supports a HangedMan -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Whichever candidate wins, everyone who has any left tendencies whatever >needs to go to work next January to get the troops out of Iraq. We >should try not to make such cooperation too difficult then. If Kerry wins, he's the enemy starting on Nov 3. No reason to wait until January 20. "Naderbot" was a joke; sorry if it came off as an insult. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Jun 24 15:26:23 PDT 2004

22200 [lbo-talk] Kovel on Nader-Camejo -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> Kovel is a very serious red-green who's run >> against Ralph in Green primaries *from the left.* > >An argument is not confirmed (or even particularly strengthened) by the >fact that its proponent is an admirable person, just as an argument is >not weakened by the fact that its proponent is an asshole. I can understand your attachment to the second part of this assertion, but I put the header on to clarify/emphasize ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 24 12:56:05 PDT 2004