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22156 [lbo-talk] Comment on F-9/11 and racism -- rank: 1000
John Thornton wrote: >The gains are not small at all so you are incorrect in this >assumption. The collective loss of creating an underclass hits >everyone unequally. It hits communities of people of color >disproportionately hard. It hits white people too but it is less >than clear that it is a net negative for whites in general. It may be, but it's very hard to tell on the basis of personal experience. Political education could help change that, but it's an uphill fight. Doug
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Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 14:45:01 PDT 2004
22157 [lbo-talk] silence on Cobb -- rank: 1000
Michael Pugliese wrote: >It seems that the conven was highly undemocratic- no plenary to >discuss our options, democratic party trojan horses campaigning >against Nader/Camejo, misinformation and threats to the delegates, >etc. Hilarious - Nader isn't even a member of the GP, is he? Doug
Document Size: 4784
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 14:16:43 PDT 2004
22158 [lbo-talk] Marx on Wall Street -- rank: 1000
[from an interview with Paul McCulley, chief Fed watcher at the giant bond management fund PIMCO <http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Late+Breaking+Commentary/FF/2004/FF_07_04.htm>} Inducing a recession usually isn't a big vote-getter? Nor is opportunistically embracing them when they happen. Democracy is founded on the notion of one person, one vote and ergo must be inflation-prone. There is nothing wrong with that. As Churchill said, it's the best of the worst forms of government. The thing is, ...
Document Size: 5517
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 13:04:23 PDT 2004
22159 [lbo-talk] New Internaationalist does a hit on Trots -- rank: 1000
'Remember, we're the only people here with an overall strategy for the anti-capitalist movement. So I want five people to go out with membership cards, five to sell papers and five to sell bandanas.' - Chris Nineham, leader of the British SWP, speaking at SWP/GR meeting 18 July 2001, Genoa Convergence Centre. article at <http://www.newint.org/issue367/worldbeaters.htm>.
Document Size: 5016
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 11:55:53 PDT 2004
22160 [lbo-talk] silence on Cobb -- rank: 1000
jimi ayler wrote: >Larry Sabato, a political scientist who directs the >University of Virginia Center for Politics, said, >"It's a rare thing, even for a splinter party, to have >a nominee for vice president indicate she is not sure >for whom she is going to vote." Sabato is such a dial-a-quote hack. Like you needed an "expert" to make this observation!?!?! I wonder how the Green base takes this? Doug
Document Size: 4911
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 11:47:56 PDT 2004
22161 [lbo-talk] FOMC statement -- rank: 1000
[pretty much as expected - funds rate target raised by 0.25% - the language is pretty dovish, and they kept the word "measured"] <http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/press/monetary/2004/20040630/default.htm> June 30, 2004 For immediate release The Federal Open Market Committee decided today to raise its target for the federal funds rate by 25 basis points to 1-1/4 percent. The Committee believes that, even after this action, the stance of monetary policy remains accommodative ...
Document Size: 6596
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 11:40:43 PDT 2004
22162 [lbo-talk] Comment on F-9/11 and racism -- rank: 1000
Carrol Cox wrote: >You are operating from radically individualistic premises. Everyone >knows this (or ought to), and of course even more egregious cases exist. >But this tells us _nothing_ about what racism does to the working class >_as a class_. It has been shown over and over again that the greater the >spread in wages, socialservices, education, etc. between white and black >workers, the worse off _both_ groups are in comparison with areas in >which the spread is less. ...
Document Size: 6151
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 11:20:59 PDT 2004
22163 [lbo-talk] Comment on F-9/11 and racism -- rank: 1000
snit snat wrote: >I don't know if this applies much anymore, but they used talk about >how political the crime stats are. If a mayor who campaigned as >though on crime wants to look good, there are ways to cook the >books, so to speak. For sure, but it's hard to cook the books with murders. And NYC's murder rate is back at early 1960s levels. Doug
Document Size: 4948
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 11:16:31 PDT 2004
22164 [lbo-talk] silence on Cobb -- rank: 1000
jimi ayler wrote: >yeah, it matters to nader's candidacy, to say nothing >of his credibility (peter camejo, this means you, >too), when lenora fulani is the only "major" political >force still in his corner. i'm taking bets now that >ralph won't even match his '96 performance, where he >competed with the hell's angels for rightful ownership >of the term "one-percenter". At this point it looks like Ralph is going to have serious ballot access problems. No ...
Document Size: 5305
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 11:14:52 PDT 2004
22165 [lbo-talk] Comment on F-9/11 and racism -- rank: 1000
paul childs wrote: >I think this is yer basic correlation/causation confusion, maybe >even estimating a negative identity. As our society only recognizes >crime (outside the civil sphere at any rate) as a crime if it is >identified and reported as such by the police, lower numbers of >police will, in almost all cases, lead to less crime being reported. Not necessarily. The U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics does an annual victimization survey, which asks people whether they were cr ...
Document Size: 5168
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 10:40:44 PDT 2004
22166 [lbo-talk] Comment on F-9/11 and racism -- rank: 1000
John Thornton wrote: >If two equally qualified applicants apply for a job, one white and >one black, even if they are actors trained to give the same >nonverbal clues during the interview, the white applicant gets the >job most of the time. Of course some on this list are arguing that >racism does not actually benefit whites but it sure as hell benefits >the ones looking for jobs. It's worse than that - applicants with "black"-sounding names are less likely to get a c ...
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Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 10:28:50 PDT 2004
22167 [lbo-talk] silence on Cobb -- rank: 1000
I'm intrigued by the lack of comment from our Nader fans on his failure to win the Green Party nomination. Does it matter to his candidacy? What does it say about the Greens (and him)? Etc.
Document Size: 4587
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 09:52:02 PDT 2004
22168 [lbo-talk] Low Taxes Do What!? -- rank: 1000
Grant Lee wrote: >But is Sowell correct about rising revenue in $ terms being outstripped by >congressional initiatives? My impression was that the White House led the >charge with defence spending, as Travis Fast has already said. Rising revenues in $ terms is a canard. Inflation and economic and population growth make rising revenues in dollar terms a near-certainty. To keep programs constant, you almost always need nominal increases (Republicans love to obscure that, but that's the w ...
Document Size: 5289
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 09:27:18 PDT 2004
22169 [lbo-talk] Comment on F-9/11 and racism -- rank: 1000
JBrown72073 at cs.com wrote: >And it's pretty much proven, >fewer cops = less crime. Huh? First, who proved this? And second, how can you tell causation doesn't run from crime to cops? NYC has a very large police force, and the lowest crime rate of any big city in the U.S. Doug
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Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 09:20:52 PDT 2004
22170 [lbo-talk] culture of poverty -- rank: 1000
Gary? quoted: >I thought I knew what this meant but STFW anyway and came across this: > >http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj16n1-1.html > >[Nonemployment >The percent of the adult population that is not employed has been declining >for many years and, compared to many other nations, is unusually low. Working for a right-wing think tank means you can say whatever the hell you feel like. Here's the BLS's data for 2002. They report the employment/population ratio; the "non ...
Document Size: 5479
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Jun 30 09:19:52 PDT 2004
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