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21991 [lbo-talk] Re: lbo-talk Digest, Vol 3, Issue 134 -- rank: 1000

Tahir Wood wrote: >Fuck the Green Party. Could you elaborate? Doug

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21992 [lbo-talk] good news on religion in America -- rank: 1000

[Links and graphic at <http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/demographics/20040316/5/915>.] The Passion for Religion Ebbs by Andrew Beveridge March, 2004 As the Passion of the Christ continues to break box office records, Christians observe lent, Jews prepare for Passover, the attorney general holds morning prayer services and politicians routinely voice their religious conviction from the stump, one might get the impression that Americans are becoming more and more religious, and that they ...

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21993 [lbo-talk] question on poverty and world bank's PPP -- rank: 1000

Jeffrey Fisher wrote: >ok, stupid question, but when the world bank says that (as of 1999, >iirc) 2.1 billion people lived on less than $1/day using the dollar >as a marker of "purchasing power parity", does that mean the buying >power of US$1 no matter where you are in the world, or does it mean >the local equivalent of what US$1 would buy in the states? The latter. From <http://www.worldbank.org/poverty/mission/up2.htm>: >When estimating poverty world-wide, th ...

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Date:	Tue Mar 16 07:03:20 PST 2004

21994 [lbo-talk] Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi quoted: >"Over the last eight years, Nader has done more for the Green Party >than anybody else," said Howard Hawkins, a Green Party organizer >from Syracuse, N.Y. "We should draft him and have a candidate who >can be in the national debates" with Bush and the expected >Democratic nominee, U.S. Sen. John Kerry. Nader rejected the Green platform in 2000, and the party in 2004. If that's doing lots for the Green Party, they're in even worse shape ...

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Date:	Tue Mar 16 06:57:46 PST 2004

21995 [lbo-talk] Mitchel Cohen responds -- rank: 1000

Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:50:32 -0500 From: mitchelcohen at mindspring.com On Doug Henwood's Left Business Observer listserve, Art McGee wrote: >As for Mitchel Cohen and the Greens, it's obvious that they >are as clueless as ever. They, like a lot of other idiots on >the Left, don't understand two fundamental things about our >electoral system: (1) voting in a bourgeois democracy can >only be part of a tactical strategy, and is not in any way >an end in and of itself; Agreed. O ...

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21996 [lbo-talk] Booing Manning Marable -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Art McGee wrote: > >>5. Fuck Mitchel Cohen. >> >>6. Fuck the NY Green Party. > >Hey Doug, > >Is it OK now for people on the list to tell other people to go fuck >themselves? It's a fine line between spirited discourse and flaming. I think Art's post was spirited discourse, esp since neither Mitchel Cohen nor the NY Green Party are on the list. I'm about to forward a response from Cohen. Doug

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21997 [lbo-talk] Booing Manning Marable -- rank: 1000

Art McGee wrote: >I just want to say that it was great meeting Doug Henwood >and Nathan Newman in NY at the SSC. I don't always agree >with them, but I appreciate all the hard and principled work >that they do. Thanks, and I'd like to return the compliment, and apologize for leading you to the speakers' reception, where they ran out of wine (the only form of alcohol on offer) 50 minutes into the event, and 85 minutes before its announced end. Thanks for the rest of the post, which lo ...

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Date:	Mon Mar 15 17:18:08 PST 2004

21998 [lbo-talk] Booing Manning Marable -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson -PSU wrote: >You might think these aspects of his campaign are not enough to make it >right and good for him to run, but somebody as smart as Doug Henwood can't >seriously contend that they have "absolutely nothing" to do with the future >of third parties, can he? He had an opportunity to build on in 1996 and again in 2000. He didn't. Jackson did in 1984 and 1988, too. He didn't either, though he did walk a lot of picket lines at least. At this point, Nader i ...

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Date:	Mon Mar 15 16:38:46 PST 2004

21999 [lbo-talk] Booing Manning Marable/the long ascent -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Throw all the bums out in '04. I don't get this really. Do you think the U.S. state will just dry up and disappear? There's probably no force on earth stronger than the U.S. government. Can "we" just vote it out of office, and therefore out of existence? If so, then who gets the B-52s? I'm really mystified. Doug

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Date:	Mon Mar 15 15:33:03 PST 2004

22000 [lbo-talk] Booing Manning Marable -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson -PSU wrote: >Duh and duh. I didn't and don't say a) that black perceptions and >preferences should be ignored, or b) that Doug thinks the DP is awesome. >But the DP has undeniably failed to do anything to help African-Americans >since LBJ, and even what he did was mostly a flawed sop for the Vietnam >meatgrinder. If most blacks still think their best answer lies in >"re"claiming the DP, that's a respectable judgement call. But so is the >propositi ...

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Date:	Mon Mar 15 15:17:04 PST 2004

22001 [lbo-talk] El Salvador Elections emergency -- rank: 1000

Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:40:02 -0800 From: Gar Lipow <GarLipow at comcast.net> Just a followup to my previous note on the jailed election observers in El Salvador; they have all been released. A new batch of observers is coming tomorrow, so we have to hope they don't face the same sort of harrassment. In general phone calls to the U.S. Embassy still would not hurt - thanking them for seeing that none of the observers was killed, or disappeared, or tortured or detain permanently or deporte ...

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Date:	Mon Mar 15 13:33:23 PST 2004

22002 [lbo-talk] China protects private property -- rank: 1000

[from the World Bank's daily press review] ===================================================================== China Endorses Private Property ===================================================================== China's parliament has agreed to landmark changes to the constitution that will protect private property for the first time since the 1949 revolution, reports BBC Online (03/15). Sunday's endorsement came on the final day of the National People's Congress annual meeting in Beijing. Th ...

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22003 [lbo-talk] Booing Manning Marable -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala quoted the ever amusing Mitch Cohen: >When Manning Marable spoke, he was interesting as he always is, but >he came to the end saying that he'd voted for Nader last time but would >vote for Kerry this time because of what Bush means for people of >color. Suddenly, quite a few boos, very loud ones, were heard -- more >than I'd expected, actually. And not just from the NY Greens entourage >which was sitting a few rows behind me. > >At first Manning was amused, ...

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22004 [lbo-talk] Enrique -- rank: 1000

Max B. Sawicky wrote: >Some of the old-timers here may remember LBO-ster >Enrique, who lives in Madrid. I sent him a note >and he's doing fine. Says the ruling party got punished >for their photo-ops w/Bush. Also says the socialists >are more neo-liberal than the ruling party. It's the same party as Felipe Gonzalez, no? In an interview with Forbes in 1992, Milton Friedman more or less endorsed Clinton, pointing in part to the way the "left" parties in Europe had been ...

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Date:	Mon Mar 15 07:37:27 PST 2004

22005 [lbo-talk] google ads @ archives -- rank: 1000

kelley at pulpculture.org wrote: >OK Jordan, I've played at the archives and have to say, you're >right, it's pretty fascinating to which ads come up depending on the >content of the message. And whenever you see one of those ads, click on it! Takes only a second, and it's money for Jordan & me! Doug

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