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2191 [lbo-talk] My Letter To CH -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2011, at 2:56 PM, // ravi wrote: > On Dec 17, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote (quoted): >> "There s one other aspect to the adulation of Hitchens that s quite revealing. There seems to be this sense that his excellent facility with prose excuses his sins." > > One of us syndrome? Who exactly believes that?

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2192 [lbo-talk] Boots Riley on Occupy the Hood -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > The Concrete Goals listed in the Communist Manifesto came from the practice > of the Communist League; they were not theoretically derived. Marx spent a lot of time criticizing the practically derived goals of others. Theory contributed nothing to that? More than ten years after we wrote the activistism piece, we still get comments from activists burned out on precisely what we identify as its characteristics: a focus on action, without thi ...

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2193 [lbo-talk] "Anti-intellectualism -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Eric Beck wrote: > I know attributing anything to race is gauche around here these days, > but really, the tea party can only be understood as the latest > expression of good old American racism. True enough, but American (right) populism has long had a hate the poor strand. Doug

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2194 [lbo-talk] Boots Riley on Occupy the Hood -- rank: 1000

On Dec 18, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > The concrete goals of left movements can never be theorized in advance. > (That was the error that generated the FHP* paper a decade or so ago and the > hysteria about "demands" in the early weeks of the NYC OWS.) That was hardly our point. Really, did you read the thing? Doug

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2195 [lbo-talk] Occupy the hood revisit -- rank: 1000

On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:54 AM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > But what about Carrol's explanation that black non-participation (which is certainly not true in Oakland, is it?) is a function of Obama's lingering popularity? > > ------- > > Any data to back that up? Which, his lingering popularity or nonparticipation? The lingering popularity is enormous: http://www.gallup.com/poll/149351/obama-job-approval-sinks-new-lows-among-whites-hispanics.aspx Dunno about nonpart, which would b ...

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2196 [lbo-talk] My Letter To CH -- rank: 1000

On Dec 17, 2011, at 10:02 AM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > I wondered. My bad for assuming the person who was a friend and needs > to mourn was you. I guess the only person is Doug? Beats me, I don't > read everyone on the list. I don't need to mourn. I am annoyed by people who cheered his death, of which I've seen several instances. I also don't like that people find nothing sad or tragic about what happened to him in the last 10 years of his life. But people can be as rude as they like. ...

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2197 [lbo-talk] econ job at LaGuardia -- rank: 1000

[from my good friend Karen Miller] Doug, we are hiring an economics professor at LaGuardia Community College, and I'd like your network to see this because I would love to hire an economist with politics I admire. PLEASE SHARE if you know econ PhD's who might want to teach at an amazing public community college in Queens, New York! The teaching load looks high, but if you are interested in getting involved in the intellectual life of CUNY, there are ample opportunities for course release. Please ...

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2198 [lbo-talk] My Letter To CH -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:13:13 -0500 > Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> Clearly all that anti-Mother Teresa stuff was >> evidence of his deep anti-Albanian racism. > > Oddly enough, Doug, I believe you're the first > person so far to have used the term 'racism' in > connection with Hitchens. Do you know something > we don't? Or have I missed a crucial post? Or > is this just another Pa ...

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2199 [lbo-talk] My Letter To CH -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Gar Lipow wrote: > Must have been one of those periods when I was skipping a lot of > posts. I think I would have taken the same position on Willis, except > that I don't think she ever did anything as terrible as Hitchens. As I recall - I don't have the energy to read through 95 posts or whatever the fuck it is - what set Jesse off was my comment that while I admired Ellen she was a rather difficult person. Which is incontrovertibly true. How does that comp ...

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2200 [lbo-talk] occupy the hood -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > In the U.S., it is the fight against the prison > industrial system, for jobs, for public schools, for public health > care, better and more public housing, affirmative-action government > spending, etc. as it is concretely led by Black people. The scope of the prison-industrial system is greatly exaggerated, but of course mass imprisonment isn't. That aside, you list specific things, all of which are admirable, and most of which woul ...

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2201 [lbo-talk] My Letter To CH -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:52 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > You can disagree with some of what he said, but much of what he said was pretty sharp. As critic or wit those are objective judgements that you cannot undermine by saying that you didn t find him funny or erudite. As for atheism being thinly disguised racism and imperialism that s just barking. Clearly all that anti-Mother Teresa stuff was evidence of his deep anti-Albanian racism.

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2202 [lbo-talk] My Letter To CH -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Eric Beck wrote: > Can't believe I'm saying this, but Lenin's Tomb Damn, you guys are as sectarian as Trots!

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2203 [lbo-talk] occupy the hood -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Eric Beck wrote: > Those things rearrange who is poor; they don't eliminate poverty, > which will always exist under capitalism. I thought only liberals > believed otherwise? They sure can reduce it. The U.S. poverty rate is 3-4 times Sweden's. This would be a better place if we had fewer poor people. >> How do you fight a war on "structural racism"? > > Abolition of prisons would be a good start.... Funny, Angela Davis' elaboration of ...

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2204 [lbo-talk] Christopher Hitchens -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2011, at 3:53 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > Maybe I am just confirming Michael s prejudices about the English, but Islam is a load of old bollocks, as Christianity is. When Marx said that the critique of religion is over, he didn t mean that he thought that people were being unfair to religion, he just thought that the case for religion had been pretty well exploded. If only.

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2205 [lbo-talk] Occupy the hood revisit -- rank: 1000

On Dec 16, 2011, at 3:23 PM, c b wrote: > To say there is Black non-participation is not accurate. Not only > are there Black people at the main Occupations but several Occupy the > Hoods, which have the name "Occupy" because they are participating in > the OWS movement. There are fewer Black people criticizing the > Occupation than white people. It is doing the work of the 1% to feed > into the idea that Black people are somehow more standoffish from the > Occu ...

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