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21646 [lbo-talk] Worse photos to come? -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >Just saw Rumsfeld on the tube saying he had seen unreleased POW >pictures that were "beyond belief," if I caught it correctly. He >said that it would make things much worse if they become public. >How bizarre. How can there be any doubt of the photos' release >after a build-up like that, and what in literal hell can those >photos be? This gets grimmer by the minute. [Amazing headline, and interesting story.] Financial Times - May 7, 2004 Bush ru ...

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Date:	Fri May 7 11:41:57 PDT 2004

21647 [lbo-talk] economic freedom in the states -- rank: 1000

[hmm the places I'd like to live are all at the bottom] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Economic Freedom - New York Ranks Dead Last in the Nation (San Francisco, CA) - May 7, 2004 - According to a forthcoming study, New York ranks dead last out of 50 states in terms of economic freedom. "The U.S. Economic Freedom Index: 2004 Report," published by Pacific Research Institute (PRI) in association with Forbes magazine, is featured in the newly released "Best Places" issue of Forbes. The I ...

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Date:	Fri May 7 10:17:49 PDT 2004

21648 [lbo-talk] jobs -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >Why the pessimism? Activists are out there all over the country, pushing >issues and expanding turnout. I hope so. I'm still voting for the guy whose face looks like a tree from the Wizard of Oz (to steal a line from someone on the Colin Quinn show), and hope he wins. He needs some vitamin B12 and better scriptwriters though. Doug

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Date:	Fri May 7 10:16:14 PDT 2004

21649 Why Kerry? Re: [lbo-talk] Anybody But Kerry the Dole of 2004? -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >I saw the same clip where he said ribbons are considered "medals" under the >military lexicon. Don't know if it's true and I really don't give a shit. >He was protesting the Vietnam War after choosing to serve, instead of >getting a deferment and letting some poor person serve in his place. What >he threw is not important; why he threw it was. Yeah, decades ago. Now he's trying to squirm his way out of it. Doug

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Date:	Fri May 7 10:10:35 PDT 2004

21650 [lbo-talk] RE: Why the torture at Abu Ghraib should be no surprise -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >But I was surprised by the "shock and dismay." as I wrote to PenL: > >I would have expected the "if you want to make an omlet, you've got >to break some eggs" routine. But no. So, one thing that it brings >to mind is the Puritans/bearbaiting joke; that being that the >Puritans weren't opposed to bearbaiting because the bears suffered >but because the audience was enjoying itself too much. I wonder, if >the pictures had shown hatc ...

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Date:	Fri May 7 10:09:41 PDT 2004

21651 [lbo-talk] f'ing dead -- rank: 1000

Dennis Perrin wrote: >And sorry, Doug, about the bounced Riverbend post. It was so good that I >wanted people to be able to read the whole thing without having to click a >link. I stripped the HTML and re-sent it. HTML can double the length of a text, even if you can't see it. Doug

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Date:	Fri May 7 09:31:20 PDT 2004

21652 [lbo-talk] jobs -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >Yet the total "aggregate weekly hours of production or nonsupervisory >workers" is still below the 2002 level: >http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t18.htm > >The St. Louis Federal Reserve graphically tracks this number pretty well. >You can see it at the link below, which shows that the real trough in total >labor demand was in 2003: >http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/AWHI/11/10yrs > >Work seems to be being spread arou ...

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Date:	Fri May 7 09:27:33 PDT 2004

21653 Why Kerry? Re: [lbo-talk] Anybody But Kerry the Dole of 2004? -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >-And was it medals or ribbons he threw away? > >Again the Rove talking point. Who gives a shit? I saw a clip - maybe it was on the Daily Show - of Kerry arguing that distinction. It made no sense. Did he get that from Rove? Doug

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Date:	Fri May 7 09:24:41 PDT 2004

21654 [lbo-talk] Re: Anybody But Kerry the Dole of 2004? -- rank: 1000

uvj at vsnl.com wrote: >How does the US Left propose to deal with terrorism? Stop supporting the Israeli occupation, stop propping up wretched regimes in the Middle East (a partial redundancy), and send the cops after any hardcore cranks that remain. Doug

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Date:	Fri May 7 09:22:15 PDT 2004

21655 [lbo-talk] Michael Moore plays with the truth -- rank: 1000

Independent (London) - May 7, 2004 Moore admits Disney 'ban' was a stunt By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles Less than 24 hours after accusing the Walt Disney Company of pulling the plug on his latest documentary in a blatant attempt at political censorship, the rabble-rousing film-maker Michael Moore has admitted he knew a year ago that Disney had no intention of distributing it. The admission, during an interview with CNN, undermined Moore's claim that Disney was trying to sabotage the US release ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri May 7 09:14:27 PDT 2004

21656 [lbo-talk] Riverbend entry -- rank: 1000

[this bounced because html coding boosted the length over the 15k limit - plain text please!!!!] From: "Dennis Perrin" <dperrin at comcast.net> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Subject: Riverbend Goes Off Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:49:10 Just Go... People are seething with anger- the pictures of Abu Ghraib and the Brits in Basrah are everywhere. Every newspaper you pick up in Baghdad has pictures of some American or British atrocity or another. It's like a nightmare that has co ...

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Date:	Fri May 7 09:00:46 PDT 2004

21657 [lbo-talk] no pigeons please, we're Republicans -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - May 7, 2004 PARTY POOPERS PIGEONS that normally roost on the U.S. Post Office building on Eighth Avenue across from Madison Square Garden won't get the chance to heckle President Bush during the Republican National Convention. The historic mail mecca has hired N.J.-based Bell Environmental Services to install a device that administers an electric shock to any bird that dares land on it. "The convention triggered the need to spruce up the post office," admitte ...

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Date:	Fri May 7 08:56:56 PDT 2004

21658 [lbo-talk] f'ing dead -- rank: 1000

Pat Tillman's brother at the funeral: "Pat isn't with God. He's fucking dead. He wasn't religious. So thank you for your thoughts, but he's fucking dead." <http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/05/04/SPG5K6FD091.DTL&type=printable>

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Date:	Fri May 7 08:49:42 PDT 2004

21659 [lbo-talk] Red Cross report -- rank: 1000

>NEWS ALERT >from The Wall Street Journal > > >Red Cross Report Cites Widespread Abuse of Iraqi Prisoners > >A confidential and previously undisclosed Red Cross report delivered >to the Bush administration earlier this year concluded that abuse of >prisoners in Iraq in custody of U.S. military intelligence was >widespread and in some cases "tantamount to torture."

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Date:	Fri May 7 08:11:33 PDT 2004

21660 [lbo-talk] [Fwd: Fw: Why the torture at Abu Ghraib should be nosurprise] -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >That policy will NEVER be followed. There will NEVER be an international >peacekeeping force in Iraq. You're a socialist, right? I could say that being a socialist today is to embrace an impossible position. If politics consisted of only taking pragmatic positions, people like us (and, given the realities of the political spectrum today, we're far more alike than different, despite our arguments) could just as well give up. How is the international force any less realist ...

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Date:	Fri May 7 08:09:29 PDT 2004