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21241 [lbo-talk] healing, GOP style -- rank: 1000

[from Sam Smith's Progressive Review <http://prorev.com>] HEALING THE COUNTRY, GOP STYLE http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24186-2004Nov4.html RICHARD LEIBY, WASHINGTON POST - Many wonder what it will take to restore social civility to Washington, to get Republicans and Democrats mingling again. Rock-ribbed Republican Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, proffered a solution, telling us that Democrats must accept the finality of their powerlessness. "O ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 13:13:43 PST 2004

21242 [lbo-talk] Deny Them the Majority -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >I'd take any intellectual on the left in Ralph Nader's league for >the purpose of denying the POTUS an illusion of popular consent and >legitimacy. Huh? I missed this. Ralph's 0.3% is going to do this? Or is there some alternative universe where the decimal point is two places to the left? Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 13:05:37 PST 2004

21243 [lbo-talk] 2004 High Turnout and High Percentage for Kerry (Re: No, actually, I don't believe it. -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Henwood" <dhenwood at panix.com> > >-Not at all. Turnout matches 1980, lower than 1992. > >Doug-- You are being inaccurate or at least confusing turnout based on >"voting age population" versus "voting eligible population." I quite deliberately chose VAP rather than VEP as the denominator. As the Census guy told me when I was doing my Atlas back in 1994, they use VAP as the de ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 12:47:29 PST 2004

21244 [lbo-talk] Goldner on Marx & Ricardo -- rank: 1000

[and I don't mean Harpo & Ricky...] At 10:50 PM -0800 11/3/04, Loren Goldner wrote: >I have posted a new article on the Break Their Haughty >Power web site > >http://home.earthlink.net/~lrgoldner > >on the presence of the concept of the "inverted world" >(verkehrte Welt) deep in Marx's critique of political >economy, and in particular with reference to Ricardo, >both in Capital and Theories of Surplus Value. I also >briefly discuss Marx's mathematical ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 12:24:01 PST 2004

21245 [lbo-talk] Re: purist's glee -- rank: 1000

jk wrote: >doug, didn't bubba win a plurality at or more than 51% >in '96? 49.2%

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 12:06:52 PST 2004

21246 [lbo-talk] Karl Rove's Strategy -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >I think that's too simple, Doug. "Character" is often seen as signalling >what kinds of issues will be enacted by a candidate, especially for folks >who don't feel they can wade through the piles of competing statistics and >partisan propaganda. If you trust that a person is a good person, you >assume they will likely enact good policies. "Character" also means that Bush doesn't believe in evolution and does believe in his divine mission ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 12:06:06 PST 2004

21247 [lbo-talk] Re: No, actually, I don't believe it. -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >Like I said, given things as they are (which Doug imagines I can't >"face") the Dems have to appeal to a fraction of the reactionary >vote in order to remain nationally competitive. Do you really think there's a giant untapped "progressive" vote out there? You've been in the Bay Area too long if you do. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 10:57:31 PST 2004

21248 [lbo-talk] No, actually, I don't believe it. -- rank: 1000

SergioL652 at aol.com wrote: >But it was 51-48 with record turnout Not at all. Turnout matches 1980, lower than 1992. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 10:56:34 PST 2004

21249 [lbo-talk] Purists' Glee -- rank: 1000

Michael Pollak wrote: >That's true. But 51% of the popular vote is more than any candidate >has gotten since 1988 (thanks to third party candidates). > >Bush is the first candidate who's actually gotten a majority of the >electorate since ... his Dad. But here are some real landslides: FDR, 1932 57% FDR, 1936 61% Ike, 1956 57% LBJ, 1964 61% RMN, 1972 61% RWR, 1984 59% Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 10:25:33 PST 2004

21250 [lbo-talk] Karl Rove's Strategy -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >That's precisely the strategy that leftists should use: use the >issues that matter to your base -- class issues like the Iraq War, >universal health care, public works jobs with living wages for the >unemployed, shorter workweeks, etc. -- to split the people and then >win on turnout -- except that leftists can't do this through the >Democratic Party. We have to do this primarily through social >movements and secondarily third-party campaigns that s ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 10:16:29 PST 2004

21251 [lbo-talk] turnout not so high after all -- rank: 1000

<http://www.news.uiuc.edu/news/04/1103voters.html> Voter turnout in Tuesday's election unlikely to have been higher than in 2000 Andrea Lynn, Humanities Editor 11/3/04 CHAMPAIGN, Ill. - Despite the widespread assumption that voter turnout was substantially higher in the 2004 presidential election than it was in the 2000 election, "the numbers suggest a different story," says Scott Althaus, a professor of speech communication and political science at the University of Illinois at ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 10:01:53 PST 2004

21252 [lbo-talk] hicks v. slicks -- rank: 1000

kjkhoo at softhome.net wrote: >More generally, how does the electoral college give an advantage to >the rural? Aren't the number of electoral votes proportional to >population? Closely, but the clout of small states is boosted by the fact that electoral votes are the sum of House and Senate votes. So the states with only one or three House members get a boost. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 06:16:29 PST 2004

21253 [lbo-talk] birthday -- rank: 1000

Appropriately enough, perhaps, today would have been Robert Mapplethorpe's 58th birthday.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 06:14:56 PST 2004

21254 [lbo-talk] Like Shooting Fish In A Barrel -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >Or lobbing mortar rounds into the Baghdad Green Zone. > >"Let us hope that the left and those that fell victim to the >pathetic Anybody But Bush epidemic this year abandon such doctrine >in elections to come. Not only was it poor reasoning, it in fact >helped re-elect George W. Bush. Sadly, Kerry was only accountable to >the Party bigwigs, and not those voters and citizens on the ground. >Had he been the popular vote spread would not be over 3.5 mi ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 06:11:22 PST 2004

21255 [lbo-talk] Hitlery Clinton '08? (Nooooooooo!) -- rank: 1000

Has anyone ordained as the front-runner years in advance ever won a nomination? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 05:54:57 PST 2004