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21226 [lbo-talk] NGLTF mtg in NYC -- rank: 1000

Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community to hold post-Election 2004 Town Hall in NYC on Nov. 8 The outcome of the Nov. 2 election has many people in the LGBT community asking, 'Where do we go from here?' Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people are likely looking for answers in the aftermath of the Nov. 2 election. So, what exactly happened? How bad was it for the LGBT community? Constitutional bans on same-sex marriage passed in 11 states in the Nov. 2 election, and many speculate ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 16:46:13 PST 2004

21227 [lbo-talk] mourn -- rank: 1000

Seth Ackerman wrote: >No, we're not in the middle of one of those rare periods in >history when social attitudes suddenly take a giant leap forward, but I >really don't think they're going backwards either. There was an interesting article in a recent ish of Public Opinion Quarterly showing that social attitudes in the U.S. have been getting steadily more "liberal" for decades, even during the supposedly conformist 1950s. Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 16:44:59 PST 2004

21228 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Now - YOU Can Respond -- rank: 1000

[Ralph needs money. The trial lawyers cut him off in 2000, so I guess he's a bit short. Why Mr 0.3% feels in a position to give advice is beyond me.] From: "Ralph Nader" <naderteam at votenader.org> Reply-To: <naderteam at votenader.org> Dear Friend, Thank You We need your help today. First of all, thank you so very much to the thousands of volunteers, our Corporate Crimebusters, State, Regional and Campus Coordinators, our valiant staff here in Washington, DC, all of our g ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 16:19:14 PST 2004

21229 [lbo-talk] mourn -- rank: 1000

Gregory Geboski wrote: >There was a 35-year turnout record For the second or third time today...NO THERE WASN'T! Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 16:20:33 PST 2004

21230 [lbo-talk] mourn -- rank: 1000

Gregory Geboski wrote: >... although I don't think "Don't mourn, organize" is a stupid cliche. It is. It's a command to substitute action for thought and feeling, a classic impulse of American activistism <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Action.html>. Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 16:28:30 PST 2004

21231 [lbo-talk] mourn -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >>http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041122&s=pollitt > >[But how useful is Pollitt's message, which seems to be, "Don't >Organize, Commit Suicide"? That's the only way I can interpret her >conclusion, i.e:] > >Maybe this time the voters chose what they actually want: >Nationalism, pre-emptive war, order not justice, "safety" through >torture, backlash against women and gays, a gulf between haves and >have-nots, gov ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 16:16:36 PST 2004

21232 [lbo-talk] Flash: Arafat Reported Clinically Dead (Reuters) -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >I'm stating the facts as I see them. If you disagree, explain why. >In any case, Arafat has been politically dead for some time, >confined to his battered headquarters for more than two years. Did >you do anything to change that before he fell ill? I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Do you think you could have done a better job than Arafat? Is this another iteration of blaming failure of will rather than horrible circumstances? Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 16:15:11 PST 2004

21233 [lbo-talk] untapped "progressive" vote (was No, actually, I don't believe it.) -- rank: 1000

John Thornton wrote: >If Kerry had offered it instead of the plan he did offer, that many >poor and working people knew they couldn't afford anyway, they just >might have turned out to vote for it. Voting for "it" and voting for a candiate are, to quote Charles I's execution speech so beloved of the Party of the RIght, clean different things. Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 16:14:15 PST 2004

21234 [lbo-talk] OSCE on DC -- rank: 1000

The Election Observation Mission of OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) http://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/field_activities/?election=2004us issued its preliminary statement on the U.S. elections: See http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2004/11/3779_en.pdf The statement shows that OSCE is beginning to pay attention to disenfranchisement in the U.S. capital. The EOM wrote, "The OSCE/ODIHR will issue a comprehensive final report which will address certain issu ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 16:03:09 PST 2004

21235 [lbo-talk] Bush to go on bender -- rank: 1000

[this is really fucking scary] Bush Says Will Use Political Capital from Election By Steve Holland WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) said on Thursday he earned "political capital" from the 59 million people who voted for him and will use it to advance a broad agenda that includes protecting America and reforming the intelligence community, the tax code and Social Security (news - web sites). "I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I int ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 15:43:24 PST 2004

21236 [lbo-talk] untapped "progressive" vote (was No, actually, I don't believe it.) -- rank: 1000

John Thornton wrote: >That along with true universal health care would have brought out >many more people to vote who just stayed home and ignored all this >shit as being irrelevant in their lives. I'm just reading a poll that says that 48% of self-described conservatives support something like Canadian-style healthcare. Yet almost all "conservatives" voted for Bush. There's many a slip...

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 15:26:42 PST 2004

21237 [lbo-talk] Re: Dean Wins! -- rank: 1000

DEAN WINS! The incredible story of how Howard Dean became President of the United States. by Tom Gogola - November 4, 2004 You had to be there: Garofalo, Dean and Affleck party like rock stars on election night. In what is being called the most stunning election-day upset in American history, Howard Dean was elected president yesterday by a margin of 274 to 264 electoral votes. President George W. Bush and his campaign strategists immediately called the results into question, and vowed a fight ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 15:21:05 PST 2004

21238 [lbo-talk] Dean Wins! -- rank: 1000

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 15:13:07 PST 2004

21239 [lbo-talk] Purists' Glee -- rank: 1000

kjkhoo at softhome.net wrote: >Is there a URL for this electoral-vote weighted map? Thanks. There are some good Flash maps here - by county, metro area (and one that strips out sparsely populated areas): <http://www.nytimes.com/pages/politics/campaign/index.html?8dpc>. Follow the link to the Interactive Feature, under the hideous pix of Cheney & Bush. There are also state maps, one by conventional geography and the other electoral vote weighted, at <http://www.nytimes.com/package ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Nov 4 13:46:27 PST 2004

21240 [lbo-talk] Constitutional rape -- rank: 1000

DSR wrote: >And this is why it is time for gay activists to quit acting like >every day is Stonewall and start acting like sophisticated political >strategists. Hmm, whaddya mean by this? I'm in the mood to smash some stuff right now. Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 4 13:17:18 PST 2004