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21196 [lbo-talk] Wal-Mart Repubs -- rank: 1000

[I'm told that WMT played Fox News throughout Election Day.] At 11:26 AM -0500 11/5/04, <newsfeed at mediabistro.com> wrote: >EWS MEDIA MISSED WAL-MART REPUBS >If pop culture is a reflection of a nation's values, then the signs >of a Bush victory were there a long time ago for anyone to see. >http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B30047C76-3E73-45E1-852B-7A41FFF107EC%7D&siteid=mktw&dist=

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 13:34:43 PST 2004

21197 [lbo-talk] Income and Votes 1976-2004 -- rank: 1000

Paul wrote: >Can anyone recommend any research that *empirically* looks into >these issues (economic breakdowns of voting patterns) in a serious >way? The database that Stonecash used, the National Election Survey, is a rich lode of such info. Someone with the necessary database and statistical skills could do the world a favor by looking into it. Doug

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 13:26:58 PST 2004

21198 [lbo-talk] 3,893 phantom votes -- rank: 1000

Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes By JOHN McCARTHY, Associated Press Writer COLUMBUS, Ohio - An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush (news - web sites) 3,893 extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said. Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites)'s 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct. Bush's total should have been recorded as 36 ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Nov 5 13:25:00 PST 2004

21199 [lbo-talk] Frank on election -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >But change the subject the left must. Since there is no way the >left can out-Hallelujah the Republicans, the left must base its >appeal on material terms and simply offer a better deal -- >guaranteed lifetime employment, healthcare, pensions, etc. This is all true, but I'm really tired of living in a country where more people believe in angels than evolution. It's seriously and deeply fucked up. >Despite the powerful momentum of the trends Frank identifies, n ...

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 13:23:19 PST 2004

21200 [lbo-talk] Re: dean wins! a fantasy in one act... -- rank: 1000

jk wrote: >go into the weekend following one of the worst weeks >in the history of the american left with a smile on >your man. my (and doug's, i believe) man, tom gogola, Yup, Tom's my man (who, aside from being a really smart & funny writer, perpetrated the great Chelsea Clinton Riot Grrrrl hoax). Liza & I each separately posted the link yesterday too. I could use this as a pretext for a bandwidth lecture, but instead I'll treat it as a massive vote of support for Tom's great ...

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 13:08:33 PST 2004

21201 [lbo-talk] enough of the southern bigotry remarks... not necessarily on this board though. -- rank: 1000

Tommy Kelly wrote: >Enough is enough! I understand where you're coming from, but how do you explain the fact that poor whites vote Republican, esp in the South, without resorting to racism to at least some degree? Doug

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 10:53:22 PST 2004

21202 [lbo-talk] US Marines bring democracy and mercy to Iraqis -- rank: 1000

Dwayne Monroe wrote: >We haven't seen anything yet. It may well be that the insurgents will abandon Falluja and spread throughout the country. No bloodbath now, but more later. Doug

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 10:44:52 PST 2004

21203 [lbo-talk] mourn -- rank: 1000

Jon Johanning wrote: >But doesn't organizing also imply thinking hard about *how* to >organize? Every successful organizing effort I've taken part in or >observed took a lot of careful thought to plan. It's not just >mindlessly charging out into the streets, Yoshie-style. :-) Hey, Yoshie isn't mindless. I don't agree with her a lot of the time, but she's got some candlepower behind her. But it's not just about thinking about how to organize - it's about thinking about organizing to w ...

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 09:44:49 PST 2004

21204 [lbo-talk] US Marines bring democracy and mercy to Iraqis -- rank: 1000

Word is that the assault on Falluja could begin as soon as tomorrow...

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 09:41:19 PST 2004

21205 [lbo-talk] Frank on election -- rank: 1000

[I agree with this up to a point. But we can't duck on the "cultural issues." "We" might be able to win a few elections narrowly by pursuing a more populist economic agenda - though the capacity of the right to red-bait that stuff is still considerable - but it's not a guarantee. "We" have to take on the Christian right if we want to make this a better country. I don't know how, but just changing the subject isn't enough. RIght-wing populism, which has deep roots in ...

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 09:28:35 PST 2004

21206 [lbo-talk] Re: No, actually, I don't believe it. -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >I think the priority for the immediate period should be to pull >together the independents from the MWM, Greens (which as a party >probably needs to be dynamited, it is hopelessly compromised - not >to mention heavily white middle class, not uncoincidentially- its >time is past), etc and found an independent political party. Are you serious? The Greens can't even organize one party among themselves, and you're asking them to melt into a larger effort - though ad ...

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 09:22:32 PST 2004

21207 [lbo-talk] Confused and Desparate Democrats -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >Which adds to the reasons I think Kerry deserves more respect from >progressives than he received. Did you forget all the rest of that article, like Kerry begging McCain to run as VP and offering command of the military as a carrot? Doug

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 09:13:44 PST 2004

21208 [lbo-talk] Falwell celebrates -- rank: 1000

Falwell Confidential Date: November 4, 2004 From: Jerry Falwell THE LEFT THREW ITS BEST PUNCH... AND FAILED. Tuesday's re-election of President George W. Bush and the election of a number of new conservative lawmakers across the nation astonished liberal newsmen, pundits and handlers who, hours earlier, had believed allegedly rigged exit polls and were confidently whispering that a new mandate was going to sweep the nation. So what happened? After more than 25 years since I formed the Moral Majo ...

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 09:08:54 PST 2004

21209 [lbo-talk] Ohioans Who Earned Less Than $50,000 (48%) -- rank: 1000

Gary? wrote: >If this data is taken from exit polls how correct is it when the >exit polls got the result so wrong ? THe early exit polls were wrong; the complete ones were closer to accurate. But an error of just a few percentage points (which is pretty good for sampling work, really) in the topline results doesn't invalidate the usefulness of all the other analytic stuff. The patterns are almost certainly correct even if the exact numbers might be off by a couple of points. Doug

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 09:03:01 PST 2004

21210 [lbo-talk] Ohioans Who Earned Less Than $50,000 (48%) -- rank: 1000

Stephen E Philion wrote: >Granted, but even when ya look at states like Alabama, say, Kerry >still gets majority in the 15k and below. between 15k and 50 k It's probably heavily skewed by blacks in the lower income categories. Nationally, according to the run I bought from Gallup in June, white voters in the lower brackets were about evenly divided between D&R. Doug

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Date:	Fri Nov 5 09:00:49 PST 2004