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21166 [lbo-talk] exit poll change -- rank: 1000

Ok, so the early exit poll results were all wrong. So why did CNN's presentation of exit poll results for Ohio change radically - from a Kerry lead to a Bush lead - between 12:21 AM and 1:41 AM early Wednesday morning? The sample size reported had increased by a couple of hundred - was that enough to tip the balance? Screen shots: <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1293911>. -- Doug Henwood Left Business Observer 38 Greene St - 4th fl. New ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 8 05:27:57 PST 2004

21167 [lbo-talk] RE: Slavoj rounds bend, celebrates Bush's victory -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >I nominate Doug for General Secretary. Thank you. Let the executions begin! Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 8 05:00:09 PST 2004

21168 [lbo-talk] Women's Review of Books going under -- rank: 1000

Chronicle of Higher Education - November 12, 2004 HOT TYPE 'Women's Review of Books' Will Fold Its Covers By SCOTT McLEMEE NO FURTHER REVIEW: Readers turning to the November issue of The Women's Review of Books will find a dozen essays on recent volumes by Judith Butler, Julia Kristeva, and Cynthia Ozick (to list only the most prominent names), as well as work by seven poets. The classified ads list nine tenure-track jobs, mostly in women's-studies and gender-studies programs -- not counting an ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 8 04:57:31 PST 2004

21169 [lbo-talk] Washington Blade on the election -- rank: 1000

DSR wrote: >It's unfortunate that you must "twist" what I've said to justify your >rancor. Twist away; it really won't change a thing. I won't engage >your posts with a response again, or will defer to Doug's direction >if he wants otherwise. I don't know of any other direction to suggest, but Michael Dawson - why do you have to get so nasty? Make an argument, but don't attack people, or I'll put you on moderation. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 8 04:51:20 PST 2004

21170 [lbo-talk] Jesus of the week -- rank: 1000

[thanks to Michael Pug] <http://www.jesusoftheweek.com/jesii/073/index.html>

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Nov 7 18:22:57 PST 2004

21171 [lbo-talk] Rove: banning SSM "hopeful & decent" -- rank: 1000

Bush to Seek Gay-Marriage Ban in New Term -Aide Sun Nov 7,12:28 PM ET By Randall Mikkelsen WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) will renew a quest in his second term for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage as essential to a "hopeful and decent" society, his top political aide said on Sunday. Bush's call for a constitutional ban on gay marriages failed last year in Congress, but his position was seen as a key factor motivating Christian conservatives ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Nov 7 18:21:29 PST 2004

21172 [lbo-talk] Barack Obama -- rank: 1000

andie nachgeborenen wrote: >Carrol >can bitch that he's not a commie, but there are no >commies in the Illinois statehouse. I blame the Democrats. Carrol has convinced me that if there were no DP, the statehouse would be crawling with revolutionaries. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Nov 7 18:15:27 PST 2004

21173 [lbo-talk] Draft 01 -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Trust the People. This is a simple axiom, because if change is going >to come about it is going to come about through the action of the >people. You ducked this question on PSN, so I'll try again here: just how did Mao put this dictum into practice. China under Mao wasn't exactly a bottoms-up society, was it? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Nov 7 17:20:07 PST 2004

21174 [lbo-talk] The Fags Lost It -- rank: 1000

Dennis Perrin wrote: >AC of C-Punch, now twice in one week, reminds us who forced the >dispossessed of Ohio and elsewhere to vote against their economic >interests in favor of Hetero-Jesus: > >"The Democrats spent the year wasting money and passion attacking >Ralph Nader whose early predictions of his ultimate drawing power at >the polls turned out to be on the money. If the Democrats had wanted >to identify a serious saboteur of their chances they should have >ho ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Nov 7 07:31:41 PST 2004

21175 [lbo-talk] Satan in Fallujah -- rank: 1000

[from an AP story on the gathering assault] Col. Gary Brandl voiced his troops' determination: "The enemy has got a face. He's called Satan. He's in Fallujah and we're going to destroy him."

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Nov 7 07:27:42 PST 2004

21176 [lbo-talk] Zogby's post-mortem -- rank: 1000

Released: November 05, 2004 Amway vs. Outsourcing: How George Bush won Looking at exit polls, the most striking thing in all of them is the top issue: Moral values narrowly edged out the economy and terrorism, driving the votes of 22% of the electorate. Our final tracking poll did show an up-tick for moral values as the top issue, but it was still only ranked number one by a paltry 4% of respondents. In the week before the election, it had only been 2% and even among white evangelicals it only t ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Nov 7 07:26:47 PST 2004

21177 [lbo-talk] 22% Moral Values support as an artifact of a forced choice question -- rank: 1000

No, I think "moral values" is a proxy for the Christian right. Their share of the electorate is almost identical to the "white evangelical/born again" (23%), and they voted for Bush in almost identical proportions. The phrase itself may be a bit of a floating signifier, but it mainly attaches to the fundies. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Nov 7 07:17:43 PST 2004

21178 [lbo-talk] Barack Obama -- rank: 1000

snit snat wrote: >I'm not asking for a referendum on whether we should start pushing >for Obama's candidacy. Or even for a judgement about Obama's >biography. I'm talking about Obama's _story_ of why people are >democrats: "When a kid on the southside of Chicago goes hungry, that >bothers me." > >He is trying to balance what some social theorists have called the >moral logics of the market, the state, and civil society. Yes, you've convinced me. I'm going to sta ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Nov 6 16:01:50 PST 2004

21179 [lbo-talk] Barack Obama -- rank: 1000

kjkhoo at softhome.net wrote: >A different question about Obama: How did he/the team do it? > >Looking at the exit polls for him, the guy took every category and >by handsome margins, except for self-confessed >conservatives/conservative protestants, "moral values" types, and >that was about 27% of the electorate -- the percentage the RP guy >got. In other words, that would seem to be the hardcore base of this >RP regime in a context like Illinois. He won with w ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Nov 6 14:19:12 PST 2004

21180 [lbo-talk] Jesus didn't exist.... -- rank: 1000

Mike Ferro wrote: >Particularly humorous and/or revolting at the time of my viewing of the >shroud display was the enthusiastic spiel of my docent in the church in >describing in abundant detail the scientific studies that had been made of >the physiology and psychology of the torture of crucifixion. That's Catholicism for you - always very fleshly. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Nov 6 11:45:32 PST 2004