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21106 [lbo-talk] Re: Anti-Zionism vs. Anti-Semitism (Doug Henwood) -- rank: 1000

<hari.kumar at sympatico.ca> wrote: >Doug - everything in that somewhat long note by Potawatomi, was very >reasonably laid out & surely cannot be misconstrued. >Why do you pick out the one part that may be easy to mock? I don't agree. I thought everything else had that sneering tone that every windup cyberlenin adopts.

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 16:26:17 PST 2004

21107 [lbo-talk] And A Big Shout-Out to the Shining Path From Counterpunch Wacko -- rank: 1000

Lance Murdoch wrote: >Of course! Lock him up! Lock his lawyer up (oh, they already did >that)! Reinstate the Fujimori dictatorship, we need law and order in >Peru, who the fuck do these redskin peasants think they are? You're really a fan of SL? And are the only two choices SL or Fujimori? Doug

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 16:12:27 PST 2004

21108 [lbo-talk] l'Orhee noir -- rank: 1000

Chuck Grimes wrote: >driving my car in traffic is >like playing ruby in the nude Is that good or bad? Doug

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 16:11:01 PST 2004

21109 [lbo-talk] Kerry's voting records -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >From an article in CounterPunch a few days ago: This is the voting record of >the candidate Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Michael Parenti, Tariq Ali, >and many other progressives wanted us to support. The election is over. Can we move beyond this? Doug

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 16:07:10 PST 2004

21110 [lbo-talk] Re: Everybody Knows... -- rank: 1000

Turbulo at aol.com wrote: >The problem with both these guys was that, once elected, they failed >to act independently of the Democrats. Once again, it's a matter of failure of will, and not structural constraints.

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 15:51:05 PST 2004

21111 [lbo-talk] Where we stand today -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson wrote: >I would shine the mirror right back on you, bud. The freedom of speech >includes the freedom to lie, unless the lie is material to a crime. And so >it should be. THough I would add that "freedom of speech" isn't relevant here, since this list isn't a common carrier. I can block posts and kick people off, which is a kind of editorial control, not censorship. Doug

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 15:26:13 PST 2004

21112 [lbo-talk] Where we stand today -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >Of course it's okay to criticize anyone. It's not okay to make up lies as >part of the criticism. I'm not going to start fact-checking posts, esp since what some people call lies others call a difference of opinion. Doug

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 15:25:14 PST 2004

21113 [lbo-talk] Possible Bright Side? -- rank: 1000

R wrote: >hi doug: i didn't know you were a fan of the WTO steel import agreement, I thought Bush's steel tariffs sucked, and to hold that up as a model of progressive economic policymaking is a bad mistake. >there's a meaningful difference between a punch and a counterpunch. >since you find sports boring and have no idea what it is, you might >ask a friend who understands boxing to explain it. As I understand it, a counterpunch is a punch delivered in reply to an attacking punch. I ...

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 15:22:27 PST 2004

21114 [lbo-talk] Possible Bright Side? -- rank: 1000

Bill Bartlett wrote: >The main point (which you appear to have missed) was that action is >more likely under Bush There's just no precedent for this position in U.S. history. Periods of disruption from the left came in the 1930s, 1960s, and to a lesser extent the 1990s - all under Democratic presidencies. The 1920s, 1950s, and 1980s were relatively quiet, and the Nixon years marked the end of the 60s. So what are you basing this on other than your own feelings? Doug

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 15:19:09 PST 2004

21115 [lbo-talk] Where we stand today -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >So if you are going to rap peoples knuckles for impoliteness, how about a >bit of discipline on those who spread clearly false information? Hey, I rely on you to be the fact-checker. Seriously, people, don't spread lies. That's a bad policy. Doug

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 15:05:51 PST 2004

21116 [lbo-talk] severe exit poll discrepancies -- rank: 1000

Steven Freeman of the University of Pennsylvania concludes: "My purpose in this paper has not been to allege election theft, let alone explain it. Rather, I have tried to demonstrate that exit poll data is fundamentally sound, that the deviations between exit poll predictions and vote tallies in the three critical battleground states could not have occurred strictly by chance or random error, and that no solid explanations have yet been provided to explain the discrepancy. In short, I have ...

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 14:59:29 PST 2004

21117 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Kerry won Ohio: Just count the ballots at the back of the bus -- rank: 1000

KERRY WON OHIO JUST COUNT THE BALLOTS AT THE BACK OF THE BUS In These Times Friday, November 12, 2004 Most voters in Ohio chose Kerry. Here's how the votes vanished. By Greg Palast This February, Ken Blackwell, Ohio's Secretary of State, told his State Senate President, "The possibility of a close election with punch cards as the state's primary voting device invites a Florida-like calamity." Blackwell, co-chair of Bush-Cheney reelection campaign, wasn't warning his fellow Republican o ...

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 14:52:58 PST 2004

21118 [lbo-talk] Anti-Zionism vs. Anti-Semitism -- rank: 1000

potawatomi at earthlink.net wrote: >To be revolutionary, or to be counter-revolutionary: > >That is the question! That is *the* question? Right now? Are you serious, or are you just one of those folks who play V.I. Lenin on the Internet? Doug

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 14:47:12 PST 2004

21119 [lbo-talk] advances in parenting -- rank: 1000

[from today's VersionTracker announcement of new Macintosh software] Spy on Your Kids 2.0 (Freeware - 11/13/2004) secretly captures screen shots & keystrokes http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/25106

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 14:45:00 PST 2004

21120 [lbo-talk] Mikie P hears a pooh -- rank: 1000

John Bizwas wrote: >How does posting urls and whole articles written by someone >else--and then crying over 'abuse'--amount to an adult-level >argument on anything? You haven't done anything substantive I can >see. So now you are waiting for the list moderator to come on and >make a big deal about it--which no doubt he will, since he does seem >to bluster for the likes of you and Chip. Considering the real abuse >many on this list hurl at Carrol and Yoshie, if they had 'kill ...

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Date:	Sun Nov 14 14:41:57 PST 2004