Search LBO-Talk Archives

21091 [lbo-talk] Enough from Al! -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >Apologies for the recent explosion of Al From-o-grams. Hotmail kept >giving me error messages saying that my email had not been sent. I >was horrified to check the LBO archives and find that was not so. >Clearly, Microsoft is not to be trusted. In general, hotmail sucks. Its mailbox capacity is small, and there are lots of bounces. It eats attachments too, esp Acrobat files. If you're going to use a free email account, Yahoo seems to work much better. Doug

Document Size:	4992
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 18:42:05 PST 2004

21092 [lbo-talk] Al From Beats Tambourine -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >>From: John Adams <jadams01 at sprynet.com> >> >>I find this entire thread puzzling. I've never heard Beats >>Tambourine--what sort of music do they play? And this Al guy-what's >>his instrument? > >He plays the triangle. Yo Carl, it was funny the first time, but it's worn a bit with seven iterations.

Document Size:	5037
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 18:37:04 PST 2004

21093 [lbo-talk] Fallujah: a picture of the triumph -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >It's not a "handful of people" who want to bring the troops home, though. It was in the summer of 2003. Your citation of evidence is also rather selective. You forgot this: >CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. Aug. 23-25, 2004. >N=1,004 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. > > "As you may know, the number of U.S. military >deaths in Iraq will soon surpass 1,000. Which >comes closer to your view about what this number >of deaths means for the U.S.? ...

Document Size:	5934
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 18:36:31 PST 2004

21094 [lbo-talk] Fallujah: a picture of the triumph -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Didn't you and Christian know that Washington would be of necessity >destroying Iraq more than reconstructing it? Yes, of course. Have I ever suggested anything to the contrary? Doug

Document Size:	4813
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 18:29:44 PST 2004

21095 [lbo-talk] Fallujah: a picture of the triumph -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Opinion polls can't accurately measure opinions of people living in >a war-torn country under the foreign occupation, especially when the >polls in question are funded and conducted by people who are in >favor of continuing the occupation. For sure, but: 1) polls have changed over the last 15-18 months, to being more hostile to the occupation, and 2) there's also the evidence gathered by journalists like Christian Parenti, who, unlike any of us, has talked to ...

Document Size:	5370
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 18:09:33 PST 2004

21096 [lbo-talk] Re: that settles it for me: they stole it! -- rank: 1000

John Thornton wrote: >That said I don't understand the snotty e-mail from frank. FS is smart and clear-eyed and everyone else is dumb and blinkered. That's the point of everything he posts; the context or subject doesn't matter. Doug

Document Size:	4908
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 18:06:46 PST 2004

21097 [lbo-talk] Al From Beats Tambourine -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >So what's wrong with getting sympathetic clergy and laypeople to highlight >these principles and engage religious voters on these principles? Nothing at all, but it has little to do with what From was talking about, which was going after *Republican*-voting churchgoers. This is the latest iteration of the DLC's attempt to move the party to the right - having embraced mass incarceration and welfare reform, all that remains is Trad Vals. Doug

Document Size:	5029
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 18:02:10 PST 2004

21098 [lbo-talk] Al From Beats Tambourine -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >Some call the election a warning. "You can't have everybody who goes >to church vote Republican; you just can't," Al From, founder of the >Democratic Leadership Council, said last week at a forum on the >election. Everybody who goes to church doesn't vote Republican. It's mostly white evangelical/born-again protestants who vote Republican, over the "moral" issues. You're not going to win them over just by saying "God" more often. So d ...

Document Size:	5115
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 11:20:45 PST 2004

21099 [lbo-talk] Iraq split -- rank: 1000

I've been travelling, so I haven't been keeping up as much as I should, but the Workers Communist Party of Iraq has split, and now there's a Left Worker-communist Party of Iraq too: <http://www.socialismnow.org/html/declaration191004.htm>. Great timing. Doug

Document Size:	4826
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 10:53:25 PST 2004

21100 [lbo-talk] Fallujah: a picture of the triumph -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Nice dull metaphor, "stopped clock." Brilliant analysis. Love ya, CC! >But what was the clock stopped on? A metaphor, even as dull a one as >stopped clock, ought to have some remote indication of the tenor the >vehicle carries. The reason the stopped clock metaphor is accurate is that you write as if everything we need to know about politics we could have learned by 1917, or 1968, or some other moment in the past. Most of your examples come from thirty or ...

Document Size:	8138
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 10:42:59 PST 2004

21101 [lbo-talk] Hllary, Chuck, & Eliot -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - November 17, 2004 WE HEAR . . . THAT Sen. Hillary Clinton played a critical role behind the scenes to orchestrate Sen. Chuck Schumer's appointment to powerful committees, which persuaded him to stay put and not run for governor: "It's easier for her to run for president with Eliot Spitzer as governor. This keeps Schumer where he is."

Document Size:	4887
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 10:23:59 PST 2004

21102 [lbo-talk] election results in NYC -- rank: 1000

Bush Does Better, and Other Election Results In NYC by Andrew Beveridge November, 2004 Among the thousands of Americans posting pictures of themselves apologizing to the world for the election of George W. Bush on <http://www.SorryEverybody.com> are surely a sizeable number of New Yorkers. After all, three quarters of the voters in New York City, we have been told again and again since November 3, pulled the lever for John Kerry for president. But this, as it turns out, may be even less th ...

Document Size:	6059
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Nov 17 10:18:43 PST 2004

21103 [lbo-talk] Fallujah: a picture of the triumph -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> Independent (London) - November 15, 2004 >> >> A city lies in ruins, along with the lives of the wretched survivors >> >> By Michael Georgy in Fallujah and Kim Sengupta > >Wow! That will sure get the water running. > >Carrol > >Iraqi public opinion Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:33:28 > >Christian Parenti, freshly back from a visit to Baghdad, just said on my >radio show that Iraqis aren't hap ...

Document Size:	6481
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Nov 16 16:47:40 PST 2004

21104 [lbo-talk] RE: Why Fallujah (and Najaf) were pulverized -- rank: 1000

Gary Mongiovi wrote: >a serious embarrassment to the administration Are they capable of feeling embarrassment? Has fear of embarrassment stopped them yet? The only plausible scenario for a U.S. exit that I can see is that the proverbial quagmire persists and deepens, with a constant stream of American casualties and rising political objections on the home front. But these fuckers could go on for months like this, proclaiming a light at the end of the tunnel. Doug

Document Size:	5137
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Nov 16 16:43:15 PST 2004

21105 [lbo-talk] Fallujah: a picture of the triumph -- rank: 1000

Independent (London) - November 15, 2004 A city lies in ruins, along with the lives of the wretched survivors By Michael Georgy in Fallujah and Kim Sengupta After six days of intense combat against the Fallujah insurgents, US warplanes, tanks and mortars have left a shattered landscape of gutted buildings, crushed cars and charred bodies. A drive through the city revealed a picture of utter destruction, with concrete houses flattened, mosques in ruins, telegraph poles down, power and phone lines ...

Document Size:	12155
Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 15 22:46:16 PST 2004