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20926 FW: [lbo-talk] question re: NYC unemployment figures -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > > I haven't looked at this data in years, but it used to be that NYC >> had a very low participation rate and a very low employment >> population ratio - i.e., large parts of the population aren't in the >> labor force because they've given up searching for work. I've got a >> query in with the BLS to see if I can get up to date numbers on this, >> but as I recall, if NYers were employed at national rates, we'd have >> 5 ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 15:10:22 PDT 2004

20927 [lbo-talk] Can Kerry Make it? -- rank: 1000

Curtiss Leung wrote: >Were Kerry to win by a landslide, there will be a brief moment while >the pundits and spinners pause for some extremely public soul-searching >and self-flagellation. Then they will go back to dispensing the same >idiocies that earned them their sinecures in the first place. If that happens - a big if, of course - the polling industry could be (emphasis on the subjunctive) in real trouble. It would mean that all their techniques, both in sampling and number-crun ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 14:40:49 PDT 2004

20928 [lbo-talk] Can Kerry Make it? -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >One of several reasons I would like to see Kerry winning by a landslide is >to see all those spin doctors being plainly wrong and running with their >tails between their legs. I am not above such schadenfreude. You shouldn't be. And neither would I be. I can't forward, but the AAPORites are really giving me a hard time over the lese majeste of my Gallup piece. Curiously, the latest Gallup poll has a shift in party ID of 14 points - from 12 points in favor of t ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 14:39:44 PDT 2004

20929 [lbo-talk] Can Kerry Make it? -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >Isn't it that the opinion polls depend ultimately on the lists of already >registered voters and do not include newly registered voters? Normally, it >does not matter that much, but this year there are many reports of voter >registration offices being overwhelmed by new applications. There's some buzz about using registration lists, but pollsters just dial up people randomly and trust them to answer correctly on their registration status and intentions. It ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 12:07:57 PDT 2004

20930 [lbo-talk] Out of Iraq -- rank: 1000

Chris Brooke wrote: >On 4/10/04 6:01 pm, "Doug Henwood" <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> I realize this is an uninteresting question to the righteous corners, >> but do we know what Iraqis think today? I haven't heard much on the >> topic lately. > >There's 40 pages of poll data from June over here: >http://www.oxfordresearch.com/Iraq%20June%202004%20Frequency%20Tables.PDF > >I don't know if that's recent enough. Things have gotten mes ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 11:41:25 PDT 2004

20931 [lbo-talk] Out of Iraq -- rank: 1000

Dwayne Monroe wrote: >Ulhas wrote: > >How about handing over things in Iraq to "Muslim forces" as a >transitional step (as Italians seem to be suggesting)? > >=========== > > >Yes, this seems like a good idea to me Last year, I took some heat from the more righteous corners of this list for saying that the U.S. should withdraw and be replaced by UN forces. I said this because it's what I thought that Iraqis thought at the time, based on polling and on what jo ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 10:01:43 PDT 2004

20932 [lbo-talk] question re: NYC unemployment figures -- rank: 1000

A. Venesky wrote: >Can you direct me to any resources to figure out the >truth of NYC unemployment? Or has anyone done his or >her own analysis that may be helpful for me? > >I know that discouraged workers and the underemployed >are not considered in the official figures as well. If >anyone has good estimates on those numbers, i would be >very grateful for your help... I haven't looked at this data in years, but it used to be that NYC had a very low participation rate an ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 09:17:52 PDT 2004

20933 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages? -- rank: 1000

Miles Jackson wrote: >how many Guthrie wanna-bes strumming >3-chord folk songs do we really need? No more! I call for a moratorium!! And when I become dictator, the banjo will be outlawed. Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 08:56:02 PDT 2004

20934 [lbo-talk] NYC granny doesn't like W -- rank: 1000

New York Post - October 4, 2004 GRANNY IN BUSH WHACK By PERRY CHIARAMONTE and ED ROBINSON An Upper West Side woman says she was am-Bushed by a cane-wielding 86-year-old woman who apparently isn't fond of the president. Linda Fuda, 62, told The Post she was waiting in the lobby of a friend's Central Park West building yesterday carrying a Bush/Cheney sign and bumper stickers when Ruth Spitz, who was also in the lobby, suddenly accosted her. Spitz told her "get out of here with that trash, yo ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 07:19:43 PDT 2004

20935 [lbo-talk] NYT criticizes self, discreetly -- rank: 1000

Editor & Publisher - October 3, 2004 In Its Critique of Rush to War, 'The NY Times' Does Not Spare Itself By Greg Mitchell EW YORK In Sunday's 10,000-word indictment of the Bush administration's misuse of pre-war intelligence on Iraq's nuclear capabilities, The New York Times did not spare itself in apportioning blame in the fateful rush to war. Readers had to dig deep into the massive story, and understand some of the subtleties in the self-criticism, but it was there. The story, which runs ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 07:03:37 PDT 2004

20936 [lbo-talk] BBC gov making money in Iraq -- rank: 1000

Observer (London) - October 3, 2004 BBC governor under fire for Iraq contracts Antony Barnett, public affairs editor The BBC chief who played a pivotal role in how the corporation covered the Iraq war and the David Kelly affair, stands to profit out of a firm with lucrative military contracts in Iraq. Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, a BBC governor, emerged as one of the main figures in the feud between the BBC and the government in the fallout of the Hutton inquiry into the death of weapons scientis ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 07:00:23 PDT 2004

20937 [lbo-talk] Lesbo Goes to Muslim Bridal Shower -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Why, then, did you ask why I posted the essay by an Afghan lesbian, >when you haven't asked the same question about other postings that >came without any head- or footnote. Because I think of my job as moderator as, among other things, provoking conversation. Since we're asking pointed questions, why do you always have to position yourself as the enlightened one surrounded by hidebound dimwits? Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 06:21:53 PDT 2004

20938 [lbo-talk] RE: Klein's response to the hitchens, coopers, etc. -- rank: 1000

John Bizwas wrote: >Wouldn't it have been nice if this thread had evolved into a more in-depth >exploration of Sadr, anti-occupation Shiism, anti-Iranian Shiism, and the >militant Shia in full cooperation with militant Sunna (and just what are they >actually being 'militant' about?). It would have been nice. Why don't you take the lead? It's not very helpful when people complain about the discursive failings of others. Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 06:16:55 PDT 2004

20939 [lbo-talk] Lesbo Goes to Muslim Bridal Shower -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >I disagree that PEN-l and Marxism show no interest in the topic of >sexuality. To take just a couple of examples, when I posted on >transsexuals in Iran, Egypt, etc., I received a response on PEN-l >(from Mohammad Maljoo, an Iranian man) ><http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/pen-l/2004w31/msg00123.htm> >but not from LBO-talk and Marxism. A posting about Pim Fortuyn and >Peter Tatchell received a number of responses from Marxism and one > ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 3 15:25:56 PDT 2004

20940 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages? -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >I wonder what the generation of 2050 will think of this age. Many of us >spun the dial when the Andrews Sisters came on, but sneering at them is >no better than Carl sneers at the present. Doug and Carl have the same >vulgar attitude towards the great unwashed, but with different temporal >subscripts. > >There was no Golden Age from which the current age is a degeneration. > >But Doug's version is just Golden-Age nostalgia turned upside down. Can you ...

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