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20911 [lbo-talk] Vince Lombardi (Out of Iraq) -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >The spirit of Vince Lombardi lives on LBO-talk: "Winning isn't >everything. It's the only thing." When we all know the mark of a True Leftist is losing! What are you talking about here? Winning what? Doug

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Date:	Tue Oct 5 08:34:10 PDT 2004

20912 [lbo-talk] new Iraq poll -- rank: 1000

Survey: Iraqis losing election confidence Majority still expect to vote, but percent drops sharply Updated: 8:50 a.m. ET Oct. 4, 2004 BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis are less confident they will vote in elections scheduled for January than they were three months ago, an opinion poll released on Monday showed. A survey by the Iraq Center For Research and Strategic Studies indicated that 67 percent of 3,500 respondents polled across the country were "very likely" to vote in the elections for a na ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 5 06:59:07 PDT 2004

20913 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages?/ Why not the best for theworking class ? -- rank: 1000

John Adams wrote: >On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, at 02:56 AM, Michael Dawson wrote: > >>Carrol says you get to write what you want, if you've ever heard of a piece >>of work, even if you've never read or seen it. > >I've never seen _The Sopranos_, but I did read an explication of the >episode where Soprano takes his daughter off to college which argued >that the episode was slanted in such a way as to make Soprano seem >like a decent guy. It was a convincing argum ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 5 06:56:16 PDT 2004

20914 [lbo-talk] Fwd: ML - Macro-Economics: The Employment Benchmark Revision: A New Event -- rank: 1000

Sorry that got away before editing. Meant to strip the attachments and all. Point is, the admin's talking up huge upward revisions to employment is probably more crap from the people who brought you WMDs in Iraq.

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Date:	Tue Oct 5 06:54:31 PDT 2004

20915 [lbo-talk] Fwd: ML - Macro-Economics: The Employment Benchmark Revision: A New Event -- rank: 1000

> >From Carrie_Gray at ml.com Tue Oct 5 08:28:18 2004 >Delivered-To: dhenwood at panix.com >Subject: ML - Macro-Economics: The Employment Benchmark Revision: A New Event >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:28:07 -0400 >X-MS-Has-Attach: yes >X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: >Thread-Topic: Macro-Economics: The Employment Benchmark Revision: A >New Event - USA - 4pp >Thread-Index: AcSquZzyqZ8BkCcZSP2TH8QbXqUWJgAGr2Gg >From: "Gray, Carrie (RSCH)" <Carrie_Gray at ml.com> ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 5 06:52:55 PDT 2004

20916 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Re: AUT: Re: reading Multitude -- rank: 1000

[I loved Processed World in the old days.] Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:36:26 -0700 From: Tom Messmer <messmer at endpage.com> To: aut-op-sy at lists.village.Virginia.EDU Hello All! Coming out soon will be the latest, and possibly last edition of Processed World, co-produced for many years by Chris Carlsson, who lurks here quietly on this list. Chris will be ponying up quite a bit of cash for the upcoming issue(I believe the figure is $3000). I've put a Paypal donation button at the bottom of ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 5 06:40:04 PDT 2004

20917 [lbo-talk] the gang that couldn't talk straight -- rank: 1000

Rumsfeld Says He Was Misunderstood on Iraq-Al Qaeda Tue Oct 5, 5:54 AM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Tuesday he was misunderstood when he stated hours earlier that he knew of no "strong, hard evidence" linking Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s Iraq (news - web sites) and al Qaeda. "I have acknowledged since September 2002 that there were ties between al Qaeda and Iraq," Rumsfeld said in a Web site statement issued following remarks he made ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 5 06:28:46 PDT 2004

20918 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages?/ (An offer you can't refuse) -- rank: 1000

Marvin Gandall wrote: >Actually, anyone who grew up in this kind of immigrant community -- Irish, >Italian, Jewish, Greek, etc. -- is likely to consider it a very realistic >portrayal of the striving first- and second-generation types who peopled it. >I can recognize at least some of my old relatives and friends among the >finely-drawn secondary players who form the backdrop in the series. Yup - and it evokes New Jersey, in all its mundane hilarious glory, like nothing I've ever s ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 5 06:15:16 PDT 2004

20919 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages?/ Why not the best for the working class ? -- rank: 1000

John Thornton wrote: >Is The Sopranos a program that glorifies unbridled unregulated >capitalism in the form of organized crime, as it has been described >to me by others familiar with the program, and if so is this program >to be taken as evidence of a Golden Age for TV? Uh, you really need to talk to a different set of friends. The show does play with some moral complexities, since you like some of the characters who sometimes do horrible things, but there's no glorification about ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 5 06:09:20 PDT 2004

20920 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages?/ Why not the best for theworking class ? -- rank: 1000

Doug Henwood wrote: >Carrol Cox wrote: > >>There is more than enough information about The Sopranos in the air for >>anyone to make general statements as John has. If someone wrote a >>counterargument making a great deal of use of specifics from the series, >>John would not be in a good position to respond to the whole argument, >>but he still could (accepting the detailed description) argue with the >>conclusions that defense drew from them. >> &g ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 18:01:35 PDT 2004

20921 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages?/ Why not the best for theworking class ? -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >There is more than enough information about The Sopranos in the air for >anyone to make general statements as John has. If someone wrote a >counterargument making a great deal of use of specifics from the series, >John would not be in a good position to respond to the whole argument, >but he still could (accepting the detailed description) argue with the >conclusions that defense drew from them. > >Your proposition here would simply make 90% of conversa ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 17:58:37 PDT 2004

20922 [lbo-talk] our free press (cont.) -- rank: 1000

[you have to travel 2/3 of the way down this story to discover that Fassihi isn't allowed to write about Iraq until after Nov 2] Los Angeles Times - October 2, 2004 Private e-mail is public Tim Rutten At the core of the relentless partisan assault on the American news media's tradition that good journalism can and should be unbiased, is a campaign to obliterate the distinction between the public and the private. The notion here is that because journalists, like other human beings, have thoughts ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 15:48:27 PDT 2004

20923 [lbo-talk] Warm summers or dark ages?/ Why not the best for the working class ? -- rank: 1000

John Thornton wrote: >I don't watch "The Sopranos" but is glorifying unbridled unregulated >capitalism, which is what organized crime can be seen to be, really >the epitome of the Golden Age of TV? Don't you feel that the first part of that sentence disqualifies you from typing the second part? Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 15:44:35 PDT 2004

20924 [lbo-talk] Q for Doug -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >When are you going to tell us what Lieven said about >Beslan? Is the interview on the site yet? Between a disk crash and a system upgrade, I'm a bit behind. The sound files are all uploaded; now I just have to update the web page. Tomorrow. Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 15:38:56 PDT 2004

20925 [lbo-talk] when bush loses, what will become of him ? -- rank: 1000

...he'll get inaugurated for a second term, just like the first time? Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 4 15:11:09 PDT 2004