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20656 [lbo-talk] Re: cart before the horse -- rank: 1000

Paul wrote: >Anyone have suggestions of good empirical studies of voting patterns >broken down by economic categories (ideally cross referencing age, >race, geo location, profession, urban\suburban\rural, religious >background, etc)? For a mostly income-based analysis, with regional and racial breakdowns, see Jeffrey Steonecash's Class and Party in American Politics. Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 28 09:05:22 PDT 2004

20657 [lbo-talk] Eminem and fascism?? -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >Can anyone who likes discussing celebrities on this list >tell me what I am missing? It's cheap fun, Woj. Sometimes I like expensive fun, and sometimes I like non-fun regardless of the pricetag, but I enjoy gossip. Didn't some aphorist say that myth is gossip grown old? Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 28 07:57:06 PDT 2004

20658 [lbo-talk] polling experiment -- rank: 1000

A Republican pollster has done a poll of 12 "battleground" states. When they weight the results conventionally, Bush leads by 0.2%. When they weight the sample to match "minority" turnout in 2000, it shows Kerry 3.5% ahead. When they weight by the Census figures, Kerry's 5.2% ahead. Results at <http://www.fabmac.com/FMA-2004-10-27-Battleground-Ballot.pdf>. Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 28 07:14:15 PDT 2004

20659 [lbo-talk] JDK runs on FreeBSD!! -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >Open Source sets a very bad example Who else could emulate it? Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 28 07:11:52 PDT 2004

20660 [lbo-talk] Palast: Florida Computers Snatch Thousands of Votes from Kerry -- rank: 1000

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. PRESIDENT! FLORIDA'S COMPUTERS HAVE ALREADY COUNTED THOUSANDS OF VOTES FOR GEORGE W. BUSH Before one vote was cast in early voting this week in Florida, the new touch-screen computer voting machines of Florida started out with a several-thousand vote lead for George W. Bush. That is, the mechanics of the new digital democracy boxes "spoil" votes at a predictably high rate in African-American precincts, effectively voiding enough votes cast for John Kerry to in a t ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 28 07:04:25 PDT 2004

20661 [lbo-talk] radio Henwood -- rank: 1000

My fundraising special is this afternoon (WBAI, 99.5 FM, 4-6 PM, <http://wbai.org>. Interviews include Fran Piven on the war at home and Tariq Ali on Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, and the urgency of a Kerry victory. Music by Eminem ("Mosh") and Mojo Nixon ("Redneck Rampage"). The pressure's on to raise a lot of money. So, if you listen regularly, or if you've ever listened to a show in my archive, or if you just support the idea of the program, please pledge some money d ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 28 07:03:17 PDT 2004

20662 [lbo-talk] Eminem and fascism?? -- rank: 1000

Joel Wendland wrote: >Maybe it's just that Eminem is Derrida. Perhaps if he rapped about >floating signifiers and differance it would please the LBO crowd. Oh >wait, Derrida defended Paul De Man's nazi symapthies didn't he? I'll leave it to a Derridean to refute the second sentence, but my impression is that most people who've posted really like the Eminem video. I know I do. So whom are you talking about? Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 28 06:52:25 PDT 2004

20663 [lbo-talk] Iraq joke -- rank: 1000

[a joke reportedly making the rounds in Iraq, which apparently credits too much to Bush's expertise with the subtle meanings of words] President Bush was visiting a primary school and he visited one of the classes. They were in the middle of a discussion related to words and their meanings. The teacher asked the President if he would like to lead the discussion on the word "tragedy." So the illustrious leader asked the class for an example of a "tragedy". One little boy sto ...

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Date:	Thu Oct 28 06:42:47 PDT 2004

20664 [lbo-talk] Wanniski: Kerry for pres -- rank: 1000

<http://wanniski.com/showarticle.asp?articleid=3935> A Vote for Senator Kerry Oct 27 2004 Memo To: Website Fans, Browsers, Clients From: Jude Wanniski Re: Making Up My Mind There are a lot of little reasons why I should be voting for the re-election of President Bush, for whom I gladly cast my vote in 2000. The one big reason why I will vote for Senator Kerry next Tuesday is that he is an internationalist, as am I, and Mr. Bush has become an imperialist - one whose decisions as Command ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 27 14:45:07 PDT 2004

20665 [lbo-talk] another mea culpa of sorts -- rank: 1000

Boston Globe - October 27, 2004 Eyewitness to a failure in Iraq By Peter W. Galbraith IN 2003 I went to tell Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz what I had seen in Baghdad in the days following Saddam Hussein's overthrow. For nearly an hour, I described the catastrophic aftermath of the invasion -- the unchecked looting of every public institution in Baghdad, the devastation of Iraq's cultural heritage, the anger of ordinary Iraqis who couldn't understand why the world's only superpower w ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 27 14:27:50 PDT 2004

20666 [lbo-talk] Prop. 62 Would Squelch Third Parties in California -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Why do you think that the United States is more welcoming of >immigrants than Australia? The proportion of the foreign-born in >Australia is double that in the United States: From having been there, gazing at pedestrians on the streets and finding them a lot less "diverse" than those of American cities, and having talked to Australians while there about the country's historical attitudes towards outsiders, which were not welcoming. When we were in Aus ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 27 13:06:59 PDT 2004

20667 [lbo-talk] Eminem -- rank: 1000

Steven Gotzler wrote: >There is a similar quality to the video that reminds me of Triumph >of the Will. And while the lyrics do call on people to rise up and >vote, they also ask people to let the singer lead them. Are we against leadership? Doug

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Date:	Wed Oct 27 12:43:04 PDT 2004

20668 [lbo-talk] Prop. 62 Would Squelch Third Parties in California -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >Let's be real - who gives a shit about criminals >and immigrants? I think this is too pessimistic. Americans pay lip service to this being a nation of immigrants, and sometimes they even mean it. We're certainly more welcoming than Australians, Japanese, or Europeans. If people come, work hard, and become citizens, there's plenty of mainstream appeal there. And with ex-felons, you can make a very mainstream argument that having paid one's debt to society, one shou ...

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Date:	Wed Oct 27 11:47:08 PDT 2004

20669 [lbo-talk] Vive Jacques, Le Moor ! Vive la differance ! -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >I'm saying simply that the left would not be in its current moribund >state if more energy had been spent on politics since the Vietnam >war era instead of playing dweeby word games. Hmm, perhaps you overlooked the Eric Alterman passage I've posted several times: >"But here's the twist. [Labor historian Nelson] Lichtenstein is part >of a perfectly Rortyite reformist Campaign for a Living Wage at the >University of Virginia. This campaign is not about en ...

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20670 [lbo-talk] Eminem -- rank: 1000

Steven Gotzler wrote: >not too fascistic, Why are people bringing up fascism here? Is it that any suggestion of mass uprising sounds like a Nuremburg rally? Is mob rule impolite? I'm a little confused. Doug

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Date:	Wed Oct 27 11:41:47 PDT 2004