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20611 [lbo-talk] Tariq Ali Endorses Kerry . . . for the Battleground States -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >If the so-called AnybodyButBush brigade actually meant >*Anybody*ButBush, they would count all votes for candidates other >than Bush -- on the left and right -- as AnybodyButBush votes in the >popular vote. No. Contrary to your apparent belief, voting is a symbolic act, a gesture of self-expression. It's about evicting the present occupant of the White House. You can add up all the minor party candidates' votes you like and it'd be lucky to hit 3%. Big deal. ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 15:48:47 PST 2004

20612 [lbo-talk] David McReynolds on US election -- rank: 1000

[I really admire this guy.] "The Truth is Always Concrete" election thoughts David McReynolds There is nothing here (beyond the second paragraph) that I wouldn't have written three months ago. It is written at the last moment, without time to properly organize my ideas. In that sense, these are notes, not entirely coherent. I meant to do it much earlier, tried to find the time and could not. This post is guaranteed to have something in it to irritate everyone, including some of you who ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 13:39:33 PST 2004

20613 [lbo-talk] Fwd: envirodisaster of 9/11 -- rank: 1000

[I was asked to forward this. Ace would be crushed to hear CP described as a "liberal website."] From: Jennakilt at aol.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:41:52 EST Subject: envirodisaster of 9/11 To: dhenwood at panix.com Please consider the article below which has appeared on several liberal websites including Counterpunch. Or please consider a link to the World Trade Center Environmental Organization wtceo.org which provides a brief history of the environmental disaster of 9/11 with lin ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 13:49:18 PST 2004

20614 [lbo-talk] What Makes Ralph Nader Tick? -- rank: 1000

Lance Murdoch wrote: >On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:35:42 -0500, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: >> >> If Ralph >> polls under 0.5%, as the almost-final ABC tracking poll suggests, >> what will this iteration of the quadrennial ritual have accomplished, >> other than make the left look marginal and childish? > >Is the Democratic Party left wing? The organized left is marginal. No the Democratic Party is not left wing. I think I've typed this ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 31 13:47:26 PST 2004

20615 [lbo-talk] Null to the rescue! -- rank: 1000

[I'm no fan of health guru and WBAI producer Gary Null <http://www.garynull.com>, but this is by far the best thing I've ever heard about him.] New York Post [Page Six] - October 31, 2004 AND ONE FOR AL THERE is at least one person on this planet who wants to help Al Goldstein. Gary Null, the natural-health and fitness expert, has known the bankrupt porn publisher for 35 years. When Null read on PAGE SIX yesterday how Goldstein had lost his job as a greeter at the Second Avenue Deli and wa ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 09:54:46 PST 2004

20616 [lbo-talk] voter suppression -- rank: 1000

kjkhoo at softhome.net wrote: >Has it always been like this, just that it's being noticed more this >time around, or has there been a qualitative shift? All of the above, I think. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 09:43:03 PST 2004

20617 [lbo-talk] more Palast on Florida -- rank: 1000

Observer (London) - October 31, 2004 Voters claim abuse of electoral rolls Students say they were conned into registering twice Greg Palast in New York An Observer investigation in the United States has uncovered widespread allegations of electoral abuse, many of them going uninvestigated despite complaints of what would appear to be criminal attempts to manipulate voter lists. The allegations, which come just two days before Americans go to the polls in one of the most tightly contested electio ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 09:40:26 PST 2004

20618 [lbo-talk] What Makes Ralph Nader Tick? -- rank: 1000

R quoted Greg Bates: > But it's wrong to berate an individual for doing something other >than building a party in between runs when he puts such a gigantic >effort into those runs But what if the effort of those runs is largely wasted? If Ralph polls under 0.5%, as the almost-final ABC tracking poll suggests, what will this iteration of the quadrennial ritual have accomplished, other than make the left look marginal and childish? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 09:35:42 PST 2004

20619 [lbo-talk] Re: Tariq Ali Endorses Kerry -- rank: 1000

Thomas Seay wrote: > >--- Brad Mayer wrote > >> while Doug and his side >> of the Left rally to >> their new-found hero. I couldn't think of a worse >> recipe for a political >> debacle. > >Come on, why this misrepresetation? I am voting for >Kerry and certainly not because he is my "new-found >hero". I doubt, no, I know he is not Doug's new-found >hero either. I would be the first to admit though, >that I am making this ...

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Date:	Sun Oct 31 09:15:32 PST 2004

20620 [lbo-talk] ralph </flush> for free enterprise? aw hell naw. -- rank: 1000

snit snat wrote: >i don't pay a lot of attention to <flush> nader </flush>, but I was >curious as to when <flush> Ralf </flush> first started using the >term "corp socialism." I found this in my search. Is this an >accurate, if brief, assessment, or is Rust some kind of fifth >columnist at the USCC (snicker)? > >The best synopsis of Nader comes from Edward B. Rust, former >president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, who notes, "The wh ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 08:59:02 PST 2004

20621 [lbo-talk] Tariq Ali endorses Kerry, denounces Nader -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson wrote: >RN clearly >is way closer to a socialist No he's not. In fact when I saw him at the Council on Foreign Relations, he took exception when a questioner implied that he was <http://cfr.org/pub7058/peter_lw_osnos_ralph_nader/waging_peace_advancing_justice_promoting_security_the_civic_displacement_of_corporate_globalization.php>: >QUESTIONER: Mr. Nader, Scott Harold, Columbia University. I'm a >graduate teaching fellow at Columbia University. We have many peop ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 08:43:14 PST 2004

20622 [lbo-talk] Tariq Ali endorses Kerry, denounces Nader -- rank: 1000

snit snat wrote: >But, whatever Doug claims about Nader, it doesn't stand or fall >because he fails to make the same observation about Treeface. Treeface is a servant of big capital. Nader evokes fantasies about the nonexistent beautiful old days of little capital, when things were allegedly competitive, as if competition were an unmitigated social plus. For self-identified Marxists not to express any problem with Nader's fantasizing about small capital is a little odd. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 31 08:39:23 PST 2004

20623 [lbo-talk] Tariq Ali endorses Kerry, denounces Nader -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese quoted Justin Raimondo: >Nader's distrust of bigness, either corporate or governmental, his >fear of centralized power, his sharp critique of the >managerial-bureaucratic mentality, all recall the distinctively >American tradition of individualist populism. Just as Nader rebelled >against the corporate socialism of the Democratic Party >establishment, so the mostly Midwestern progressives turned against >the New Deal when it became a stalking horse for corpo ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Oct 30 14:52:39 PDT 2004

20624 [lbo-talk] voter suppression -- rank: 1000

[the text of a flyer reportedly being circulated in black neighborhoods of Milwaukee] MILWAUKEE BLACK VOTERS LEAGUE ----------------------------- SOME WARNINGS FOR ELECTION TIME IF YOU'VE ALREADY VOTED IN ANY ELECTION THIS YEAR YOU CAN'T VOTE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF ANYTHING, EVEN A TRAFFIC VIOLATION YOU CAN'T VOTE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. IF ANYBODY IN YOUR FAMILY HAS EVER BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF ANYTHING YOU CAN'T VOTE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. T ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Oct 30 14:02:43 PDT 2004

20625 Fwd: [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

Etienne wrote: >On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 18:21 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: > >> September 23, 2004 Michael Hardt, co-author with Antonio Negri of >> Multitude, on their follow-up to the international smash hit Empire > >I meant to mention this when you first posted up this interview - I >loved the use of various different versions of The Internationale >through the course of the show, but if you use that gag I hope it didn't come across as pure irony - I do love the s ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Oct 30 13:16:07 PDT 2004