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20581 [lbo-talk] forewarned is forearmed -- rank: 1000

R wrote: >1. few people at the NYC demonstrations were carrying Kerry for >President signs. The Counterpunch piece understated the number of Kerry signs. There more than a few - not boatloads, but more than a few. > not much in itself but indicative of the fact that few people have >Kerry bumperstickers across the nation (i've seen almost none on the >Los Angeles freeways or streets -- and that's a lot of cars believe >me) and few people are kerry supporters; the move is basi ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 15:56:39 PDT 2004

20582 [lbo-talk] MoveOn v. Bush -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >I guess the eventual Kerry defeat in November will kill the DLC and >cripple the Democratic Party, giving everybody else a chance to turn >on Bush and the Republicans. But every time they've lost since '72 they've concluded it was because they weren't right-wing enough!

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Date:	Thu Sep 2 15:53:38 PDT 2004

20583 [lbo-talk] Re: chomsky ipse loquitur -- rank: 1000

Marvin Gandall wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: > >> When I interviewed Naomi Klein on my radio show last week, she >> declaimed at length that there was little diff between Bush & Kerry >> on foreign policy. When I said, yeah, but there are some differences >> on domestic policy, she essentially said (I'm paraphrasing only >> slightly): "Well yeah, but I'm Canadian, so I don't really care about >> those." >------------------------- > ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 12:24:05 PDT 2004

20584 [lbo-talk] Re: chomsky ipse loquitur -- rank: 1000

jimi ayler quoted Noam Chomsky: >On domestic issues there could be a fairly significant >difference When I interviewed Naomi Klein on my radio show last week, she declaimed at length that there was little diff between Bush & Kerry on foreign policy. When I said, yeah, but there are some differences on domestic policy, she essentially said (I'm paraphrasing only slightly): "Well yeah, but I'm Canadian, so I don't really care about those." I'll be posting the interview to the w ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 2 09:38:35 PDT 2004

20585 [lbo-talk] more events to crash... -- rank: 1000

...for the adventurous: At 12:25 PM -0400 9/2/04, conventions at alerts.nationaljournal.com wrote: >We've Saved The Best For Last >No, not the president's speech -- we'll leave that assessment to the >partisans. But here are the cream of the closing-night bashes: >-- With the help of Blues Traveler, the Republican Governors >Association "Rocks the Planet [Hollywood] in Times Square." (1540 >Broadway, 5 p.m.) >-- Reps. Eric Cantor of Virginia and Roy Blunt of Missou ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 09:34:53 PDT 2004

20586 [lbo-talk] media birdbrains -- rank: 1000

National Journal - September 2, 2004 09-02-2004 Media - Bird Brains By William Powers (E-mail this author) © National Journal Group, Inc. The media's job is to report on the world in all its complexity, but that's not what we do most of the time. What we do is take a complex story like this presidential race and reduce it to a series of simplistic narratives, cartoonish character studies, and thought packages that don't look like reality, yet wind up becoming it. Saddest of all, the pat story li ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 09:26:44 PDT 2004

20587 [lbo-talk] forewarned is forearmed -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >R quoted >> Kerry's Slippage >> The Stench of Doom >> By ALEXANDER COCKBURN > >What is exactly his point? This man, who obviously is intelligent and >knows how to write well, used 675 words (and innumerable trees cut down >to spread these words) to say exactly what? Don't bother with Kerry, >stay with Bush? Don't bother with the election, go fuck a duck? Or >perhaps " I will say anything to spite and annoy those naïve l ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 09:18:28 PDT 2004

20588 [lbo-talk] kickin' ass -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >The basic error in _both_ propositions is that they treat humans >unhistorically and mechanically as though they were objects in a >laboratory experiment, in which it is possible to vary just one element. > >If a non-voter voted, he/she would not be a non-voter. So what we have >to look at is not the _present_ attitudes of non-voters (whatever those >may be) but at the conditions under which a non-voter would not be a >non-voter. Those conditions, not t ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 09:01:08 PDT 2004

20589 [lbo-talk] Keyes vs. Mary Cheney -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: >Andrew Sullivan noted that Keyes mentor Allan Bloom was an 'er, >"reckless hedonist." Indeed. With a special fondness for the youth, I hear.

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Date:	Thu Sep 2 07:52:24 PDT 2004

20590 [lbo-talk] making over Dick -- rank: 1000

<http://nymetro.com/nymetro/news/rnc/9741/ > Dick Cheney's Extreme Makeover By Christopher Tennant The trouble began this summer, when former New York senator Al D'Amato asked President Bush to dump Dick Cheney from the 2004 ticket. John Kerry had just announced his VP pick, and footage of the boyishly handsome John Edwards provided an all-too-sharp contrast with his grumpy GOP competitor. So far, the president has resisted the call to ditch his loyal partner. And if he can rebuild Iraq, w ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 07:40:41 PDT 2004

20591 [lbo-talk] the twins: Rove not pleased -- rank: 1000

[Today's NYT reports that the Bush twins routine was scripted by none other than Karen Hughes herself.] New York Daily News - September 2, 2004 Rush & Molloy Prez's aide: Twins were Bush-league EVERYONE'S A CRITIC: The speech by Barbara (l.) and Jenna Bush (with Mom and Dad) drew raves from Karl Rove - but not the good kind. President Bush and wife Laura may have been charmed by their darling daughters' introduction Tuesday night, but Bush-Cheney political aides thought Barbara and Jenna's s ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 2 07:35:19 PDT 2004

20592 [lbo-talk] the cultural elite writes... -- rank: 1000

<http://www.gawker.com/topic/elisabeth-kieselsteincord-lovable-email-aficionado-020713.php> Elisabeth Kieselstein-Cord: Lovable Email Aficionado Yesterday we pointed to an Observer article in which socialite-heiress-whatever Elisabeth Kieselstein-Cord made a comment identifying our mayor as Rudy Giuliani and, well, we were sorta nasty about it. You know, that's how we do things around here. Elisabeth, however, kindly sent us a copy of an email to Observer writer George Gurley that has to b ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 2 07:31:55 PDT 2004

20593 [lbo-talk] Puffy fails as politico -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - September 2, 2004 NEGATIVE VOTES FOR P. DIDDY CITIZEN Change - the not-for-profit organization Sean ("P. Diddy") Combs created to get out the vote - needs some changes itself. The group had to cancel this weekend's fund-raiser at Combs' house in the Hamptons, following a disastrous event in Miami last weekend coinciding with the MTV Video Music Awards. The Miami turnout was so sparse that the Mansion club opened its doors to paying customers midway through th ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 07:21:40 PDT 2004

20594 [lbo-talk] Keyes vs. Mary Cheney -- rank: 1000

They can try to keep the loons corked up, but the gas will out: At 8:01 PM -0700 9/1/04, John - THE LIST wrote: >2. Alan Keyes attacks Mary Cheney > >Illinois Republican Senate candidate Alan Keyes is in HOT HOT HOT water >over his comments in a Sirius OutQ interview with Mike Signorile this >past Monday in which Keyes called Mary a "selfish hedonist" and a >sinner. He then went into some detail about what genitals should be >used for. Well, papers across the cou ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 06:47:00 PDT 2004

20595 [lbo-talk] convention news -- rank: 1000

At 8:47 AM -0400 9/2/04, conventions at alerts.nationaljournal.com wrote: >GOTHAM LOCKDOWN >The Case Of The Missing Credentials >With protesters having made it into Madison Square Garden several >times already, convention officials are understandably on edge for >tonight's session. And now, a well-placed GOP source reports, >there's more reason to be wary: 1,000 Thursday credentials are >missing. RNC staff know the numbers for the missing passes, and will >be on guard aga ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 2 06:39:28 PDT 2004