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20101 [lbo-talk]Peak oil and Why can't you guys learn to quote andattribute properly? -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >Well, actually, organic framing does not depend on oil. Of course, >getting the produce to the city does. But, relative to non-organic >produce, the price of organic produce would fall. > >That would be one good consequence. The price of alternative energy >would also fall (relatively); that would be another good consequence. Some of this talk reminds me of Stanley Aronowitz on the end of work - he wanted to see as inevitable what was really his own prefere ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 11:14:27 PDT 2005

20102 [lbo-talk] socially irresponsible investment -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >How much money do you and Liza have in WalMart? By the way, last time I looked, which was several years ago, WMT was a favorite holding of the big socially responsible funds. That may have changed, but it shows you something about the deficiency of their thinking. Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 11:10:29 PDT 2005

20103 [lbo-talk] Susie Bright on AD in AU -- rank: 1000

I forwarded Catherine Driscoll's remarks about Andrea Dworkin's relative invisibility in Australia to Susie Bright, who responds: >that's not true about Australia, i think she's a lttle off. I hear >from feminists in AU all the time about this subject, and my own >movie shows have been banned from entering the country because they >are 'degrading to women"... Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 11:08:13 PDT 2005

20104 [lbo-talk] socially irresponsible investment -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >How much money do you and Liza have in WalMart? Liza has about 7 shares that someone gave her so she could go to the annual meeting. Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 11:02:26 PDT 2005

20105 [lbo-talk] Peak Oil or Oil Bubble? -- rank: 1000

T Fast wrote: >Doug are you saying that a rational response of individuals to peak >oil will not produce the best of all possible worlds at the >aggregate level? Did you fail your microeconomics exams:)? I was taught micro by a Maoist, who ended the class - literally his last line - by saying, "Of course this has nothing to do with the real world." Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 11:00:56 PDT 2005

20106 [lbo-talk] Peak Oil or Oil Bubble? -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >Precisely, which is why I am perplexed that Doug would say on KPFA >Radio this morning that 'peak oil is the wrong thing to worry about, >rather we should be worry about pollution', or words to that effect >- seems like a false dichotomy. It's not going to work that way. Talking about peak oil will probably encourage more reckless drilling and an ugly dog-eat-dog Malthusian competition. And it may well be wrong. Besides, 40 years of reserves is a lot. If a poss ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 09:50:47 PDT 2005

20107 [lbo-talk] Peak Oil or Oil Bubble? -- rank: 1000

Leigh Meyers wrote: >The working poor hold jobs closer to home. Not too many dishwashers >commuting from the Bay Area to Fresno... But office managers often do. > >No No... The lower middle/ middle class takes the hit. The ones that buy >the SUV in puruit of the "American Dream", or at least the image of it. The lower middle class couldn't afford an SUV. The average US household spent about 3% of its after-tax income on gas & oil in 2003. The poorest quintile spent 7 ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 09:19:47 PDT 2005

20108 [lbo-talk] Peak Oil or Oil Bubble? -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >increased gas cost will make public transit more attractive and promote >new investments in that area. The problem with that is American land use patterns. Public transit is almost impossible in huge chunks of this country. Check out some of the stats in <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/DrivingMadness.html>. Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 09:01:26 PDT 2005

20109 [lbo-talk] socially irresponsible investment -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >I have no money to "invest," but if I did have, and excluding companies >against which there is an organized boycott, I would not consider any >factors other than safety and return. I agree. When people ask me about socially responsible investment, I always say it's mostly a crock. They should invest conventionally and do the right thing with the rest of their lives. Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 08:12:06 PDT 2005

20110 [lbo-talk] Salon on Andrea Dworkin -- rank: 1000

B. wrote: >Much of the right also apparently wonders this. > >In 1984 R. Emmett Tyrell wrote: "In fevered depravity >the last Liberals ran riot through the 1970s >gibbering: consciousness-raising! self-realization! >group-therapy! sexuality! human rights! animal rights! >water beds! wheat grass enemas! sanitary napkins >shaped from genuine sponges! ... This is light-years >removed from the New Deal." > >Waterbeds and human rights, for shame... The Ameri ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 07:00:59 PDT 2005

20111 [lbo-talk]Peak oil and Why can't you guys learn to quote andattribute properly? -- rank: 1000

Jordan Hayes wrote: >Well, we'll probably still be here, so I'm going to start a tradition of >marking predictions with the term CHECKPREDICTION so that we can search >for it in the archives later ;-) Predictions of $100+ oil, a spreading consensus that it's running out...it's 1980 all over again! No doubt we'll "run out" in some sense, someday, but this peak oil stuff sounds like the kinds of things you hear after a long run-up in prices. It's got some similiarities to the te ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 06:40:31 PDT 2005

20112 [lbo-talk] the definitive article on Social Security -- rank: 1000

B. wrote: >The Enloe interview is great, by the way. It's not a >perspective I see much of (sustained at any length, >that is), and it's one of those pieces/interviews that >gave me a lot to think about and use. It's a take on >things that to me seems to stand out from the crowd. I agree. She doesn't get the attention she deserves. Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 14 06:33:40 PDT 2005

20113 [lbo-talk] socially irresponsible investment -- rank: 1000

Vice Fund gains on smokers, drinkers and gamblers Wed Apr 13, 2005 05:18 PM ET BOSTON, April 13 (Reuters) - Vice sells. And with tobacco, alcohol and gambling stocks on a roll, Mutuals.com's Vice Fund (VICEX.O: Quote, Profile, Research) has jumped into the top 1 percent of more than 700 mutual funds in its classification. Since the end of last year, the fund has attracted more than $12 million in new money, a 55 percent increase. It now has $34 million under management, and expects to hit $100 m ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 13 14:24:45 PDT 2005

20114 [lbo-talk] the definitive article on Social Security -- rank: 1000

I've just posted "Social Security, revisited," the definitive article on the issue from LBO #110, to the LBO website: <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/SocialSecurityRevisited.html>. While you're at it, check out my critique of Robin Blackburn's pension fund socialism scheme: <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/NSPensions.html>. Also, recently posted to the LBO website: Driving madness (America's sad vehicular obsession): <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/DrivingM ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 13 12:40:00 PDT 2005

20115 [lbo-talk] more AD -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >These discussions also remind me how hypocritical the left is about >supporting queer rights but not sexual freedom for everybody. Not my left! And not the left of many - most? - lbo-talk subscribers. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 13 12:36:19 PDT 2005