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20056 [lbo-talk] Heidegger and Ratzinger....oh freude, freude -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >I have no particular affection for the RC, but these references to what >R was or was not at 14 are worse than smears -- they make the writers >look like either gaping readers of the National Inquirer or just plain >assholes. What do a person's actions at 14 have to do with who he is 60 >years later. So much spam! Even when personal attacks are valid, they >are counter-productive from a left perspective. Sometimes lbo-talk reads >like material cut as too b ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Apr 22 13:17:23 PDT 2005

20057 [lbo-talk] away... -- rank: 1000

I've been on the road in lovely (no irony - really!) Porland, Maine, for the last two days, so I haven't been able to tend to some moderation tasks, or get into the fray either. Sorry. I'll have a chance to catch up later today. Doug

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Date:	Fri Apr 22 07:16:35 PDT 2005

20058 [lbo-talk] Re: gorgeous moscow subway stations -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >I commented on general ugliness of the US man made landscape - without >explicitly mentioning the reasons. But if you read my examples you will >find that these include _institutional_ examples - malls, developer built >Mac mansions, etc. while I positively commented on the old Victorian era >architecture. > > > >If I were to give an explicit reason - it would be crass commercialism and >the profit ueber alles mentality of business and gov ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 15:44:20 PDT 2005

20059 [lbo-talk] soft bigotry... -- rank: 1000

Andy F wrote: >--- martin <mschiller at pobox.com> wrote: >> On Apr 19, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> > I don't know where to draw the line, like I said, >> but it's dishonest >> > and evasive to pretend it doesn't need to be drawn >> at all. >> >> Wasn't this Ward Churchill's premise? > >One of the better ones. Let me put it this way. 1) With an all-volunteer army, how responsible are the soldiers for what ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 15:42:46 PDT 2005

20060 [lbo-talk] soft bigotry... -- rank: 1000

John Lacny wrote: >This is a silly point. If he had said that about the Wehrmacht, it would >have been understandable, but the SS was something different entirely Love it. The US Marines - kinda like the Wehrmacht, but not as bad as the SS! Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 15:35:05 PDT 2005

20061 [lbo-talk] Re: gorgeous moscow subway stations -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >This is another stupid statement -- you should be comforted, and the >cheap irony is as stupid an act as the initial statement. Fuck you. Really. I'm sick of your act. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 14:20:05 PDT 2005

20062 [lbo-talk] soft bigotry... -- rank: 1000

snitsnat wrote: >Does it mean we start holding individual soldiers accountable at >demos--instead of Shrubya, et al.? Look, they signed up, and many of them are enthusiastic about their work. Not all, by any means, but there are guys who've been wounded in Iraq, get patched up, and go back for more. There are guys who like cutting Iraqis in half with their 50-cals. (I heard that from a mainstream newspaper reporter who'd never be allowed to print that in the paper, of course.) Not all, but ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 13:31:45 PDT 2005

20063 [lbo-talk] Re: gorgeous moscow subway stations -- rank: 1000

John Adams wrote: >Yeah, I conflated their remarks, due to their similar underlying attitudes. Oh really? Maybe you should read a little more carefully in the future. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 12:54:26 PDT 2005

20064 [lbo-talk] Rat Man hates the likes of YOU: Down with Marxism, liberalism, atheism, agnosticism and relativism -- rank: 1000

andie nachgeborenen wrote: >Ratzinger is the first Germanic pope since monarchs >imposed four men from that region in a row in the 11th >century. Forget the Bush-Greenspan agenda to take us back to the 19th century - lets follow Ratso back to the 11th! Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 12:13:08 PDT 2005

20065 [lbo-talk] My Last Contact With Red Squares -- rank: 1000

John Adams wrote: >"What is a 'Robert Hall sweater', anyway?" Robert Hall was a clothing chain during the Golden Age. I was too young to comprehend the subtleties of the retail hierarchy, but I think the stuff was pretty cheap. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 11:26:50 PDT 2005

20066 [lbo-talk] soft bigotry... -- rank: 1000

Miles Jackson wrote: >Let's recognize the influence of social institutions and >simultaneously hold people accountable for behavior that is an >inextricable part of those social institutions? So where do you draw the line? I don't really know the answer, but a pure determinism is no more satisfying than an ethic of total individual responsibility. I characterized Zeynep's piece as "provocative" not as a journalistic cliche, but because it really is. We can say poverty breeds c ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 11:24:50 PDT 2005

20067 [lbo-talk] Re: gorgeous moscow subway stations -- rank: 1000

John Adams wrote: >Do folks really think people have junker cars in the yard because >their esthetic sense is lacking? Who ever said they did? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 11:21:17 PDT 2005

20068 [lbo-talk] equal pay day -- rank: 1000

Today is Equal Pay Day in the U.S. Celebrate appropriately. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 10:25:19 PDT 2005

20069 [lbo-talk] Rat Man elected top robed celibate -- rank: 1000

NEWS ALERT from The Wall Street Journal April 19, 2005 Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany was named the new pope.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 09:56:44 PDT 2005

20070 [lbo-talk] soft bigotry... -- rank: 1000

[speaking of the soft bigotry of low expectations, there's this provocative piece by the excellent Zeynep T <http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=5560>] The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations by Zeynep Toufe May 20, 2004 For the powers-that-be, scapegoating individuals serves as a smokescreen to deflect attention from unjust power structures. When the individuals targeted are far down in the social hierarchy, this serves the added benefit of deflecting attentio ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 19 09:46:36 PDT 2005