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19621 [lbo-talk] more Tasini -- rank: 1000

Jordan Hayes wrote: > > Probably not in the aggregate, but if you said it in >> Buffalo, people would believe you. > >Buffalo fell apart long before NAFTA. What Buffalo cares about right >now is that Erie County has been mismanaged into a handbasket and is now >bankrupt. What's Tasini going to say about that? It's much more politic to blame NAFTA. People don't want to hear about homegrown stuff when you can blame Mexico. Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 16:09:24 PST 2005

19622 [lbo-talk] Re: The Chomsky vs. Dershowitz debate: both sides wereawful! -- rank: 1000

The 30 Pound Snail Who Lives on Gar Lipow's Monitor wrote: >And Carrol would probably be considered to >the left of Doug Henwood. TIme was I might have contested that. But, judging from context, I'm guessing that by "left" you mean cranky, stubborn, and out of touch. Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 15:26:29 PST 2005

19623 [lbo-talk] more Tasini -- rank: 1000

Kevin Robert Dean wrote: >---- Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: >> The >> incumbent believes NAFTA was a good thing, supports trade deals that >> cost American jobs.... > >Now I've been one who has been to quite a few anti Globo rallies, >even made it to the Czech Republic to make it heard, but upon >reflecion, can we honestly still say that this is true? Probably not in the aggregate, but if you said it in Buffalo, people would believe you. A ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 15:11:16 PST 2005

19624 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> >> Try saying a kind word about Pootey-Poot to your average American >> leftist and they'll look at you like you're a monster. > >"Average American Leftist"????? I've never met one. This is sillier than >"average post-modernist" or "average baseball fan." Gosh, I'm surprised to hear you say this. I'd never have guessed. Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 13:54:31 PST 2005

19625 [lbo-talk] My Patti, left or wrong -- rank: 1000

John Adams wrote: >From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> > >> I sat two seat away from her at the Bono/Sachs show at NYU in >October. I was heaertbroken to see her taking notes furiously on >Sachs's comments. Doesn't she understand? > >Didn't you ask? Or intervene? Seriously (this time). She had just refused someone who'd asked to take her pic, so I thought it best to leave her alone. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Dec 5 13:33:04 PST 2005

19626 [lbo-talk] Noam Chomsky, right -- rank: 1000

Travis Fast wrote: >Hey to be fair Patti undermined her own status as minor deity by >coming out of retirement. I sat two seat away from her at the Bono/Sachs show at NYU in October. I was heaertbroken to see her taking notes furiously on Sachs's comments. Doesn't she understand? Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 13:15:43 PST 2005

19627 [lbo-talk] Re: The Chomsky vs. Dershowitz debate: both sides wereawful! -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >All you crazies aren't doing a very good job making me palatable. >Not only can't I get the time of day, I can't even get into the >Washington Post. Still have that ponytail, Max? Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 12:43:53 PST 2005

19628 [lbo-talk] Noam Chomsky, right -- rank: 1000

And since you wrote me offlist to ask me if this was like the editorial practice of The Nation in 1939, I should say publicly it's not. You've made your point many many times, and I see no reason for it to be made many many more times. Yes there are uncritical, worshipful fans of Noam Chomsky around, but they're not very visible on this list, nor would they be very welcome, since worshipful fans of anyone wouldn't be welcome. Even of Patti Smith. Doug Michael Pugliese wrote: > yes > > ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 12:16:38 PST 2005

19629 [lbo-talk] Noam Chomsky, right -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: >The big question is, of course, does Chomsky really deny the >Srebrenica massacre ? Or, if he does not deny it outright, does he put >such a spin on it that he denies it to all intents and purposes ? I'm going to assume that this went out before I said you've got to stop posting on this topic. Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 11:39:51 PST 2005

19630 [lbo-talk] Noam Chomsky, right -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: > Nope, Edward Herman and N.C are joined at the hip on Srbrenica, >http://www.zmag.org/hermanserbdebate.htm >Debating Srebrenica > > Edward Herman wrote an essay (July 7, 2005) for ZNet titled >The Politics of the Srebrenica Massacre. A number of people replied, >and Ed rejoined to each. Here are links to the original essay and >subsequent exchanges. > >Herman: The Politics of the Srebrenica Massacre You must stop posting on this t ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 11:27:08 PST 2005

19631 [lbo-talk] Hillary co-sponsoring flag bill -- rank: 1000

New York Post - December 5, 2005 HILL BACKS 'BAN' ON FLAG-BURNING By IAN BISHOP Post Correspondent Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has quietly signed on to a Republican measure that makes it illegal to desecrate the American flag - a move that will boost her credibility in the conservative "red" states. Clinton is the sole co-sponsor of Utah Republican Sen. Bob Bennett's new legislation that outlaws flag-trashing without addressing the issue of a Constitutional amendment to ban it. It's a ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 11:15:17 PST 2005

19632 [lbo-talk] Dems still afraid of Murtha -- rank: 1000

Washington Post - December 4, 2005 Dean Hammers Bush On War, Immigration DNC Chief Gives Preview of '06 Race By Dan Balz Washington Post Staff Writer PHOENIX, Dec. 3 -- Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean offered a preview of the 2006 elections here Saturday with a blistering critique of President Bush's policies on Iraq and immigration and the Republicans' ethics scandals. But he warned Democrats they cannot expect to win next year without offering an agenda of their own. Speaking at the fall ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 11:05:55 PST 2005

19633 [lbo-talk] Noam Chomsky, right -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: > Six of those massacres had more than 49 killed. How does that let >Noam off the hook for his understatement? > Basically correct? 199 killed in Srbrenica vs. >http://www.familylinks.icrc.org/mis_bos.nsf/bottin You're perseverating again. Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 10:57:05 PST 2005

19634 [lbo-talk] Stalin, democrat -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >--- Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> Unlike a lot of my comrades, I'm not hostile to >> Putin - I think he's >> kept Russia from going down the drain. > >Not a small historical accomplishment, that. People >forget (or pretend to forget) the condition Russia was >in in 1999. Try saying a kind word about Pootey-Poot to your average American leftist and they'll look at you like you're a monster. Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 10:54:27 PST 2005

19635 [lbo-talk] more Tasini -- rank: 1000

The New York Senate Race Begins A Message From Jonathan Tasini Dear Colleagues: Tomorrow, I will be holding a press conference to announce that I am entering the Democratic primary for the Senate seat from New York. I'm honored that Cindy Sheehan, a courageous leader in the movement to end the war in Iraq, will be supporting my message calling for an immediate end to the war, as will many more leaders and activists around the state and nation, including Tim Carpenter, national director of Progre ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 5 10:45:48 PST 2005