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19366 [lbo-talk] Mr. Churchill -- rank: 1000

KJ wrote: >Actually, what's so terrible about the explanation he's given in his >Counterpunch piece? >[<http://www.counterpunch.org/churchill02032005.html>] He's a little dishonest when he says: >Finally, I have never characterized all the September 11 victims as >"Nazis." What I said was that the "technocrats of empire" working >in the World Trade Center were the equivalent of "little >Eichmanns." Adolf Eichmann was not charged with d ...

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19367 [lbo-talk] Mr. Churchill -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >It's all nice an all to argue about Churchill's arguments, but what >are we going to do to stand up with him? Good question. I thought that essay was a horrid piece of crap, but the guy should be allowed to speak in public and shouldn't get fired. Is there some kind of defense campaign in the works? Doug

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19368 [lbo-talk] Re: Mr. Churchill -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >Chuck, the official story *is* precisely 'that the world's biggest >superpower was virtually helpless in stopping the 9/11 attacks' (and >furthermore, that we therefore need war without end and proscription >of civil liberties.) The problem isn't with the first part of this forumulation - it's the conclusion that repression and war are the proper responses. You seem to think that if you can disprove the official story, repression and war will stop. But most peo ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 4 08:59:40 PST 2005

19369 [lbo-talk] porn controversy -- rank: 1000

Lively porn controversy on the Counterpunch site, with Nina Hartley (the great Trot-sympathizing sex worker) <http://www.counterpunch.org/hartley02022005.html> countering a classic bit of "feminist" anti-porn by NYU media prof and filmmaker Chyng Sun <http://www.counterpunch.org/sun01312005.html>. Doug

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Date:	Fri Feb 4 08:56:18 PST 2005

19370 [lbo-talk] employment -- rank: 1000

Disappointing U.S. employment report this morning - the headline gain in payrolls of of 146,000 (probably depressed somewhat by bad weather) was well below the long-term average of 220,000 monthly gains. Factory employment declined for the fifth month in a row. The unemployment rate fell from 5.4% to 5.2%, but that was mainly because people (mostly men) dropped out of the labor force. We're now about 10 million jobs below where we would be in a "normal" recovery/expansion. Doug

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Date:	Fri Feb 4 08:49:05 PST 2005

19371 [lbo-talk] Re: churchill essay on 911 -- rank: 1000

frank scott wrote: >re-reading it, i felt the same as i did the first time...except for that >descent into tasteless lumping of victims into one awful stereotype, he >was right on the mark, most of the time, and dealing with matters in the >kind of strong language, and thinking, that escapes many lefties, >especially academics, most of the time... Who are these academics people like you like to piss on? Lots of left academics I know do things like teach in prisons or work on livi ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 3 17:01:38 PST 2005

19372 [lbo-talk] Congress goes after China -- rank: 1000

[If you run a big trade deficit, how can you avoid foreign debt? What are these idiots thinking?] >DAILY FINANCIAL MARKET COMMENT 02/03/05 Goldman Sachs Economics > >*The US trade deficit was $609 billion in 2004 (5.2% of GDP), >an all-time record. Trade with China accounts for one-fourth >of the overall deficit, and most of the increase in the real >trade deficit over the past year. > >*As Congress comes back into session, three issues are >reemerging in Congressiona ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 3 16:01:49 PST 2005

19373 [lbo-talk] definitive evidence on the housing bubble -- rank: 1000

Dennis Redmond wrote: >It's simpler than that. Speaking as someone who's broke, long-term >unemployed, and who had no choice but to run up credit card debts from >here to the asteroid belt (and that describes a good chunk of the US >population these days), there's nothing more infinitely depressing than >reading your credit card bills. Why aren't you filing for bankruptcy? Doug

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Date:	Thu Feb 3 15:51:31 PST 2005

19374 [lbo-talk] shooting people is fun! -- rank: 1000

[Reminds me of the time I saw Alexander Cockburn at URPE summer camp pick up a copy of Against The Current, which featured the headline: "Stop The Killing!" AC said, "This is everything that's wrong with the left. Can't we do some shooting?"] Marine General Counseled for Comments Associated Press Feb.3 2005 1 hour, 10 minutes ago WASHINGTON - The commandant of the Marine Corps said Thursday he has counseled a senior subordinate for saying publicly, "It's fun to shoot som ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 3 14:24:51 PST 2005

19375 [lbo-talk] God's humor [was RE: Bulletin: Nothing inthosesquare pants!] -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >Hmm, I can't see how RWE's "I am nothing" is "all about the >disappearance of the *rest* of humanity"; how it translates into >"some fanatasy of self-sufficiency"; or how it points the way to the >America, Fuck Yeah! fever that grips us now. Here's the passage again: >Crossing a bare common, in snow puddles, at twilight, under a >clouded sky, without having in my thoughts any occurrence of special >good fortune, I have enjoye ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 3 12:17:18 PST 2005

19376 [lbo-talk] God's humor [was RE: Bulletin: Nothing in those square pants!] -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >I think that Emerson and Whitman (another writer I >can't stand) are almost pathologically obsessed with >themselves. Emerson, weird as he was, had a pretty compelling prose style. And Whitman, imperial egomaniac that he was, wrote some beautiful poetry. >Off the top of my head the only American writers I ca >think of as having much to say in the "profundity" >department are Edgar Allan Poe, Faulkner, Ezra Pound >and Flannery O'Conner, and one of ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 3 11:00:26 PST 2005

19377 [lbo-talk] fuzzy electoral math -- rank: 1000

Editor & Publisher - February 3, 2005 'Fuzzy Math' and the Iraqi Election Everyone is delighted that so many Iraqis went to the polls on Sunday, but do the two turnout numbers routinely cited by the press -- 8 million and 60% -- have any basis in reality? And was the outpouring of voters in Sunni areas really "surprisingly strong"? By Greg Mitchell (February 02, 2005) -- Everyone, of course, is thrilled that so many Iraqis turned out to vote, in the face of threats and intimidation ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 3 10:13:06 PST 2005

19378 [lbo-talk] Re: Mr. Churchill -- rank: 1000

snit snat wrote: >The Clinton administration took warnings like that very seriously. >The Bush administartion apparently did not. Neither one is more >racist than the other. And didn't Seymour Hersh say he had a soft spot for Clinton because he was the first president since WW II to bomb white people? Doug

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19379 [lbo-talk] Re: Mr. Churchill -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >Yet you manage to put a >US-centric spin on it by race-baiting it. Is it really so difficult to see >things in a frame that goes beyond the Podunk horizon? Anti-American leftists can be as U.S.-centric as George Bush! Doug

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Date:	Thu Feb 3 08:24:35 PST 2005

19380 [lbo-talk] definitive evidence on the housing bubble -- rank: 1000

JBrown72073 at cs.com wrote: >It's not surprising that compound interest escapes people, as they pointed >out in the Frontline program, the credit card companies make it as >difficult as >possible to figure it out. Were there not regulations requiring it, they >wouldn't even disclose the interest charges. A few years ago, there was a move in Congress to require credit card issuers to disclose how long it would take to pay off the balance at the minimum payment. The industry went ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 3 07:55:35 PST 2005