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19306 [lbo-talk] Marc Cooper's flipping out over Churchill -- rank: 1000

I'm going to assume that these Churchill posts were sent before my message declaring the thread to be irreversibly tired.

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Date:	Mon Feb 7 11:57:20 PST 2005

19307 [lbo-talk] Churchill -- rank: 1000

The Churchill thread has grown pretty threadbare. I'm no fan of the statement, but there's not much point in thrashing it about anymore. Identical positions are being re-re-stated, and the controversy is distracting attention from the urgent task of undermining the empire. There aren't many of us, so we've got to get busy! Enough. Doug

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Date:	Mon Feb 7 11:06:57 PST 2005

19308 [lbo-talk] Bush's bulge: did NYT spike the story? -- rank: 1000

[the listening device bulge, not his Mission Accomplished manbulge - cliche watch: "hard-hitting" and "explosive" both in the first screen!] <http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2012> The New York Times killed a story that could have changed the election-because it could have changed the election Extra! January/February 2005 By Dave Lindorff In the weeks leading up to the November 2 election, the New York Times was abuzz with excitement. Besides the election itself, the ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 7 10:40:00 PST 2005

19309 [lbo-talk] Ann Coulter, Deadhead -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - February 7, 2005 CONSERVATIVE DIVA ON DVD ANN Coulter knows how to sell herself. The leggy conservative is releasing a DVD titled "Is It True What They Say About Ann?" which is billed on her Web site as a "behind-the-scenes look at the fabulous Ann Coulter." The promotional materials note: "You'll see the 'conservative movement's diva' at her best: In original interviews where she takes on the likes of Katie Couric and Phil Donohue; giving a co ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 7 06:43:49 PST 2005

19310 [lbo-talk] Marc Cooper's flipping out over Churchill -- rank: 1000

Jon Johanning wrote: >Hey, Doug! No fair! You're trying to inject some historical facts >into the controversy. We all know that powerful rhetoric counts for >everything in politics, and facts for nothing. And anyway, our >postmodern friends have helpfully pointed out to us over and over >that there are no such things as "facts" -- everything is >perspectival. I used to think that was bunk, but I'm beginning to >see the light see the light see the ... It may seem ch ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 7 06:32:24 PST 2005

19311 [lbo-talk] travel companions -- rank: 1000

[as far as I can tell, this isn't a hoax] <http://www.frontpagemag.com/Content/read.asp?ID=90> Center for the Study of Popular Culture - London June 2005 - Tour London with Christopher Hitchens and David Horowitz When: June 6th - June 15th 2005 Where: London, England Who: Authors Christopher Hitchens and David Horowitz We will be staying in London, England for 7 nights at the 5 Star Athenaeum Hotel with day trips to Oxford and Kent. Christopher Hitchens will give lectures drawing on his ex ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 7 06:28:49 PST 2005

19312 [lbo-talk] "Little Eichmanns" and the Nurenberg Principles -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Notice, however, that Churchill did not call the "technocrats" of >the American empires "Eichmanns." He called them "little >Eichmanns," so he recognizes the difference in magnitude between >Adolph Eichmann on one hand and M&A lawyers and bond traders on the >other hand as well as the difference between Eichmann's conscious >actions and American "technocrats'" unconscious actions. Gee, that's really something ...

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Date:	Sun Feb 6 19:25:46 PST 2005

19313 [lbo-talk] Marc Cooper's flipping out over Churchill -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >So Nathan's liberal friends and family wouldn't go near the antiwar >protests because they disagreed with a few slogans. How fucking >convenient! What a bunch of little Eichmanns! Let's remind ourselves who Eichmann was. This is from his Encylopedia Britannica entry: >Eichmann joined the Nazi Party in April 1932 in Linz and rose >through the party hierarchy. In November 1932 he became a member of >Heinrich Himmler's SS, the Nazi paramilitary corps, and, on leavin ...

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Date:	Sun Feb 6 15:49:12 PST 2005

19314 [lbo-talk] Some Debt Is Too Big to Be Repaid (Marc Cooper's flipping out over Churchill) -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >>And one of the reasons I think his screed was unfortunate is that >>it's made it more difficult to condemn the horrid treatment of >>American Indians. > >Why is that? Because people - whether nonideological or not - will throw Churchill's quote in your face whenever you bring up U.S. brutality, whether in Indochina or Kansas. He's made it a lot easier to dismiss critiques of imperialism and genocide. I have mixed feelings about the Timothy Burke ...

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Date:	Sun Feb 6 13:19:25 PST 2005

19315 [lbo-talk] everything sucks & is getting worse -- rank: 1000

A follow-up to the thread on decline. When do you suppose this was written (no googling!)?: >The world has now grown old, and does not abide in that strength in which >it formerly stood. This we would know, even if the sacred Scriptures had >not told us of it, because the world itself announces its approaching end >by its failing powers. In the winter there is not so much rain for >nourishing the seeds, and in the summer the sun gives not so much heat for >ripening the harves ...

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Date:	Sun Feb 6 13:12:33 PST 2005

19316 [lbo-talk] McLemee's new home -- rank: 1000

Fans of Scott McLemee (and everyone should be!), note that he's left the Chronicle of Higher Education and is now a columnist for a webzine that's about to launch, Inside Higher Ed. Read his piece on Phyllis & Julius Jacobson of New Politics at <http://www.insidehighered.com:80/index.php/mla/views/intellectual_affairs__1>. Doug

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Date:	Sun Feb 6 12:57:53 PST 2005

19317 [lbo-talk] Timothy Burke on Ward C -- rank: 1000

<http://www.swarthmore.edu/SocSci/tburke1/perma20205.html> February 2, 2005 Off the Hook I've been reading in a few places about the controversy over Hamilton College's now-rescinded speaking invitation to University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill, and Churchill's resignation as the head of ethnic studies at the University of Colorado. In a way, it's a pity that the whole affair has become so consumed by Churchill's remarks on 9/11, because that's allowed it to fall into the familiar ...

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Date:	Sun Feb 6 12:49:43 PST 2005

19318 [lbo-talk] 9/11 censorship -- rank: 1000

Leigh Meyers wrote: >Doug's easy... (But not cheap!) All depends on who's making the offer!

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Date:	Sun Feb 6 11:44:36 PST 2005

19319 [lbo-talk] Marc Cooper's flipping out over Churchill -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >I don't hear any of the critics of Churchill on this list qualifying >their attacks on Churchill by saying that they respect what has >happened to his people. By "respect" I presume you mean condemn, which I do. And one of the reasons I think his screed was unfortunate is that it's made it more difficult to condemn the horrid treatment of American Indians. >If more Americans took Churchill's arguments to heart and made a >serious effort to NOT be "lit ...

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Date:	Sun Feb 6 11:00:04 PST 2005

19320 [lbo-talk] the barbaric western practice of male circumcision... -- rank: 1000

ravi wrote: >[as we rightly protest female circumcision in africa] what's the >left's take on the male version, practiced widely in the west? What are you, some sort of smegmaphile?

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