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19291 [lbo-talk] Virginia Democrats against Underwear Exposure -- rank: 1000

B. wrote: >OH MY GOD Doug, you said "redneck'!!!!!!! That is >CLASSIST. Yeah, I know, I'm sorry. A guy I used to know when I was in Virginia preferred the euphemism, "Member of the Fellowship of the Crimson Nape." Doug

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 12:18:21 PST 2005

19292 [lbo-talk] Virginia Democrats against Underwear Exposure -- rank: 1000

philion at stolaf.edu wrote: >RICHMOND, Virginia (AP) -- Virginians who wear their pants so low their >underwear shows may want to think about investing in a stronger belt. Does this cover rednecks whose buttcracks show when they bend over? Doug

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 11:47:26 PST 2005

19293 [lbo-talk] Message from Louis Proyect -- rank: 1000

Jim Farmelant wrote: >Dear Doug Henwood, > >I certainly got my facts wrong on Bertram/Hoare, but so what? The point >being made is that Bertram was a member of the "get Milosevic" left, >which >he freely admits. I wasn't misrepresenting this, but misread his Crooked >Timber blog entry in haste and confused his identity with Hoare's. Unlike > >members of the leisure class like yourself, I have to work 45 hours a >week >and often don't have time to go ove ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 11:46:17 PST 2005

19294 [lbo-talk] CRS on imperial ops -- rank: 1000

[not much you didn't know, but "secret" is always fun] NEW FROM CRS In accordance with congressional direction, the Congressional Research Service does not permit direct public access to CRS publications. But the following new and updated reports were obtained by Secrecy News. "U.S. Military Operations in the Global War on Terrorism: Afghanistan, Africa, the Philippines, and Colombia," February 4, 2005: <http://www.fas.org/man/crs/RL32758.pdf>

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 11:28:23 PST 2005

19295 [lbo-talk] Tolerance/Civil War/Federal Opposition to Populist Racism -- rank: 1000

andie nachgeborenen wrote: >An interesting discussion, but beside my point, which >was that Americans won't normally support imperialist >crusades in merely moral disguises. That is why the >Iraq and Afghan wars had to be sold as revenge and >self-defense. On my fundraiser radio show on Thursday, I'm running an interview I recorded Monday with Noam Chomsky. Chomsky has a surprising view on the Iraq elections (they occurred against the will of the US, and were a victory for the no ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 10:41:59 PST 2005

19296 [lbo-talk] Churchill -- the ugliness deepens -- rank: 1000

Jim Farmelant wrote: >Over at Marxmail, everyone's favorite Uncle Lou A source world famous for getting his facts straight! <http://www.crookedtimber.org/archives/003208.html> Mysterious denunciation Posted by Chris I'm one of the objects of denunciation in an article by Louis Proyect on marxmail . Proyect is disgusted with various former editors of the New Left Review who have supported "humanitarian intervention" here and there. It is certainly true that I did (and still do) ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 10:20:12 PST 2005

19297 [lbo-talk] Bank scam -- rank: 1000

C. G. Estabrook wrote: >Reuters: "U.S. Treasury Under Secretary John Taylor, visiting Baghdad, >told reporters Iraq's central bank had been granted the right to open a >deposit with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. 'This enables the >central bank to earn income on its reserves, of approximately $5 billion, >that will be over $100 million a year. That can be used to improve >infrastructure,' Taylor said." > >Isn't this on a ethical par with payday loans, if ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 09:59:29 PST 2005

19298 [lbo-talk] Churchill -- the ugliness deepens -- rank: 1000

KJ wrote: >Some among you will be better able to evaluate -- the charge is now >academic fraud, which removes it from the realm of freedom of speech Removes it? The controversy isn't over Churchill's standards of scholarship, but over whether he should be denied a forum to speak and denied a job because of odious or unpopular opinions. Doug

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 09:55:56 PST 2005

19299 [lbo-talk] Clitoridectomy in Britain and America (circumcision) -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Actually, they used to remove the clitoris literally in Britain and >America, as late as in the 1940s, to cure girls' and women's >"emotional disorders." Though according to this little paper <http://www.nocirc.org/symposia/first/duffy.html>, not very often: CLITORIDECTOMY: A NINETEENTH CENTURY ANSWER TO MASTURBATION John Duffy, Ph.D. Presented at The First International Symposium on Circumcision, Anaheim, California, March 1-2, 1989. [...] In 18 ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 09:48:09 PST 2005

19300 [lbo-talk] Class Analysis of the Empire? -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >Part of the reason a "white pride" movement can't take off is that to use >the term "white pride" would force white people to constantly "see" Black >people. Whites prefer to forget about and not think about the existence of >Black people, to treat them as "invisible". But white racists are obsessed with black people - even in places like Kansas where there aren't many around. Of course, it's a paranoid "seeing" ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 9 09:37:16 PST 2005

19301 [lbo-talk] at least I know I'm free! -- rank: 1000

February 08, 2005 Who's Proud to Be an American? Republicans more likely than Democrats to say they are "extremely proud" by Joseph Carroll, Gallup Poll Assistant Editor Americans are extremely proud of their country. Since 2001, Gallup has been asking Americans a simple question: "How proud are you to be an American?" The results consistently show that the majority of adults nationwide are proud, and a review of the Gallup data* over the past several years finds some interes ...

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Date:	Tue Feb 8 17:28:19 PST 2005

19302 [lbo-talk] Bush to single mom: Working three jobs "uniquely American" -- rank: 1000

Leigh Meyers wrote: >THE PRESIDENT: You work three jobs? > >MS. MORNIN: Three jobs, yes. > >THE PRESIDENT: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic >that you're doing that. (Applause.) Get any sleep? (Laughter.) Good thing he's such a man of the people, otherwise he might get tagged as an elitist! Doug

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Date:	Tue Feb 8 17:19:15 PST 2005

19303 [lbo-talk] Re: circumcision -- rank: 1000

Miles Jackson wrote: >It's pretty easy for us to rhetorically strut around assuming >our moral superiority, but anybody's who has seriously >studied FGM knows it's a convoluted tangle of ethical >ambiguities. > >Consider: >1. The practices are accepted by, carried out by, and encouraged >by the vast majority of women in these societies. So was footbinding, no?

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Date:	Tue Feb 8 06:48:58 PST 2005

19304 [lbo-talk] South & North -- rank: 1000

[this bounced becuase the full text is 62k - here's the lead] From: "Patrick Bond" <pbond at mail.ngo.za> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Class Analysis of the Empire? Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 05:36:58 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- From: <JBrown72073 at cs.com> > >I couldn't agree more. So how do we start? I'd really love a rigorous >>analysis of just how much imperialism contributes to the U.S. >>standard of living today, b ...

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Date:	Tue Feb 8 06:47:47 PST 2005

19305 [lbo-talk] Class Analysis of the Empire? -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >In my opinion, all three ideas above should be criticized and >rejected, but criticisms of the empire (as well as criticisms of >Israel) are often couched in moral terms that partake of one or more >of them. For the last several years, we have seen outpourings of >books and articles critical of US imperialism (and Israel), but >class analyses of the empire, especially ones that clarify American >workers' positions in it (or ones that clarify Jewish ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 7 14:43:13 PST 2005