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1921 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Wojtek S wrote: > Miles: "The problem we need to focus on is poverty, not the school system." > > [WS:] Was not the school system - or rather education - supposed to be the > solution of poverty? And as such, did not it fail rather miserably? > > > But I agree with you - the problem is the social conditions that make > students unavailable for learning. Focus on the school system is getting it > all backwards. Wait a minute, gu ...

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1922 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Joshua Morey wrote: > I am suggesting, on the other hand, that material concerns inhibit or > facilitate students' ability to engage in the quantitative rigor That's absolutely true. The best predictors of school outcome are income & poverty. But isn't that something to be outraged about instead of making excuses for? Doug

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1923 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Eric Beck wrote: > Employers' demand people with quick-thinking skills Actually, research shows that, aside from technical jobs, employers view educational credentials as a sign that you can show up on time and finish an assigned task. Doug

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1924 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: > But maybe that's because today I was in the bookstore browsing the memoir of Christopher Hitchens, "Hitch 22", and realized that all the sophistication of his Oxford Trotskyist education is fairly hollow considering what a reactionary shitbag he turns out as, whereas at the same time I am reading John Tilbury's biography of Cornelius Cardew, and realize that while Cardew's (and guitarist Keith Rowe's) Maoist politics were really st ...

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1925 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:40 PM, c b wrote: > Carrol: Well, if true, it has always been that way, there being only > the haze of nostalgia that creates the illusion it has ever been > different. My old geezer sitting in front of the general store and > grousing. > > ^^^^^ > CB: I agree with you that some measure of this has always been true. > Our American anti-intellectual "national character" has probably been > cultivated by the powers-that-be, if not initiat ...

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1926 [lbo-talk] Todd Gitlin on "Incoherent Left" - full article -- rank: 1000

On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:50 AM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > Just a sidenote. The most crushing indictment of Israel and the Zionist project I ever read was Shlomo Sand, The Invention of the Jewish People. It was published in English by Verso. So I am completely unmoved by hints from Gitlin that Verso is somehow under the shackels of the Zionist lobby of NYC. That would be preposterous. They've published Finkelstein, for god's sake.

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1927 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:04 PM, c b wrote: > I still think the ruling class doesn't want tens of millions of > "analytical" and critical thinkers. They especially don't want a lot > of critical thinkers. They remember well that many of the activists > of the "60's" reform movements were students, critically thinking > students. So, the state of education described by Doug above is not > an accident. I think you've got a point. Which is a way of saying that t ...

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1928 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > And so many have mocked the Panthers' Breakfast program. Over the years I > have seen several ex-SWP people mock it as merely stupid imitation of China; > same ones who also (also stupidly) mocked them as ultra-left. The SWP in > its great period was also grounded in lies. And that is related to what exactly?

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1929 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Incidentally, during the 18 years Jan worked at the post office, the most > interesting conversationalist and alert intelligence she met there had read > only one book in his life, Pearl Buck's Good Earth in high school. There is > an ocean of satire going back to the late 17th-c on reading much and gaining > nothing. It always strikes me as weird when a guy who devoted his professional life to Milton and Pound says that literacy d ...

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1930 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Jeffrey Fisher wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote: > I still simply cannot under stand why anyone finds this study in the least > interesting. Well, we've got a generation of K-12 kids who score miserably on international tests, we're about the only country in the world where people in their 20s are not surpassing the educational attainment of people in their 50s, and a major chunk of college students are gettin ...

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1931 [lbo-talk] Happy Birthday Mozart... -- rank: 1000

On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Charles Turner wrote: > On Jan 27, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Dennis Perrin wrote: > >> Or watch Amadeus (Director's Cut, natch). Not historically accurate, but very entertaining. > > Or maybe put on some Hadyn instead. I'd go with that option. Doug

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1932 [lbo-talk] Martin Amis moving to BK -- rank: 1000

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2011/01/an-uncharacteristically-chatty-email-from.html British Author to Brighten Brooklyn by James Wolcott January 25, 2011, 2:05 PM An uncharacteristically chatty email arrives from the normally stoic and uninflected Martin Amis informing me he will soon be moving to Brooklyn and wondering if I know of "any cool places to hang out" there. I wonder if his email has been misdirected, since cool hangouts, Brooklyn or otherwise, are hardly my bail ...

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1933 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > And almost all the posts in this thread are apolitical No. I'm asking what social forces produced an inability to read more than 30 pages among college students. That strikes me as very political. You just don't want to believe that there are any social pathologies among the masses. Which makes me wonder why you're a socialist, really. Doug

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1934 [lbo-talk] Felix the Fixer returns? -- rank: 1000

http://wp.me/pqagG-ey or http://lbo-news.com/2011/01/26/felix-the-fixer-returns/ Felix the Fixer returns? So it looks like the Irish opposition parties are looking to bring in Felix Rohatyn, the investment banker who took over New York City in 1975 and conducted what was essentially a dress rehearsal for neoliberalism, to restructure Irish debt. See here. Back when he was riding high he was the New York Review of Books favorite Wall Street correspondent in the 1980s, a role now played by George ...

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1935 [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study? -- rank: 1000

On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:10 PM, dredmond at efn.org wrote: > videogame and digital literacies Have you read Jodi Dean? Doug

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