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19066 [lbo-talk] Hayekians and other supporters of the market are enemies of the human race -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >CB: More precisely right here you are merely redbaiting me. I'm more sympathetic to the USSR than a lot of other American leftists, but really Charles, this isn't fair. Stalin(ism) is not the same as Marxism or socialism or the left broadly defined. One can be an anti-Stalinist and a red. Nothing pleases a real anti-communist more than treating Stalinism and socialism as synonyms. >By only discussing the crimes of Stalinism and not discussing the much >greater crim ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Jan 13 09:15:26 PST 2005

19067 [lbo-talk] Stop Flogging the Dead Donkey and Own the Power of aSpoiler -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >The Ukrainians did not protest an "oppressive regime" - for if that was what >bothered them, they plenty of opportunities since Stalin. There's also some evidence that George Soros was paying Ukranians to demonstrate. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jan 13 09:08:34 PST 2005

19068 [lbo-talk] Stop Flogging the Dead Donkey and Own the Power of a Spoiler -- rank: 1000

R wrote: >crypto rightwing twits like nathan newman I've certainly disagreed with Nathan a lot, but there are several things wrong with this phrase. The personal insult, of course, but also the characterization of Nathan as a twit and right-wing. If you think Nathan is right-wing, you've obviously been living on another planet for the last few years. If he's right-wing, what's Tom DeLay? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Jan 13 07:00:10 PST 2005

19069 [lbo-talk] military discharges gay translators -- rank: 1000

Report: Number of gay linguists discharged higher than thought By KIM CURTIS Associated Press Writer 13 January 2005 SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The number of Arabic linguists discharged from the military for violating its "don't ask, don't tell" policy was nearly three times as high as previously reported, according to records obtained by an advocacy group. Between 1998 and 2004, the military discharged 20 Arabic and six Farsi speakers, according to Department of Defense data obtained by the ...

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Date:	Thu Jan 13 06:44:26 PST 2005

19070 [lbo-talk] left-leaning billionaires on the march -- rank: 1000

Financial Times - January 12, 2004 Soros in new pledge to leftwing causes By James Harding in Washington A group of billionaire philanthropists are to donate tens of millions more dollars to develop progressive political ideas in the US in an effort to counter the conservative ascendancy. George Soros, who made his fortune in the hedge fund industry, Herb and Marion Sandler, the California couple who own a multi-billion dollar savings and loan business, and Peter Lewis, the publicity-shy chairma ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Jan 13 06:30:53 PST 2005

19071 [lbo-talk] Does Al Qaeda Exist? -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Doug didn't advocate a "police-first" way. He advocated an invasion by a military force. I did? What I said was that the police approach wouldn't work if it just meant parachuting the NYPD in with subpoenas. But the way the Bush admin prosecuted the war was hideous and stupid. Here's what I wrote in Oct 2001 in LBO. I could smell the smoke from the WTC as I was writing it, so maybe my higher cerebral functions were clouded. Doug ---- War Back in happier times, J ...

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Date:	Wed Jan 12 16:21:59 PST 2005

19072 [lbo-talk] Does Al Qaeda Exist? -- rank: 1000

Luke Weiger wrote: >From: "Yoshie Furuhashi" <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> > >> Well, it took you about four years to recognize what I, as well as >> about 5% of all Americans and 20% of all Black Americans, said in >> 2001: invading Afghanistan (or any other nation for that matter) has >> nothing to do with apprehending the 9/11 terrorists or preventing >> future acts of terrorism. > >I don't see how believing Scheer's descriptions of th ...

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Date:	Wed Jan 12 15:32:16 PST 2005

19073 [lbo-talk] Does Al Qaeda Exist? -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson wrote: >You hoax-peddlers can't let anybody think straight, can you? It _is_ a >matter of whether Al Qaeda exists. It does, and it has claimed >responsibility for the 9/11 attacks. Have you read the NY Review piece yet? Any thoughts? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Jan 12 14:59:54 PST 2005

19074 [lbo-talk] Does Al Qaeda Exist? -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Of course, it is possible that discussion of terrorism at LBO-talk, >like the Bush Team's propaganda for mass consumption, is so dumbed >down that the real question that Sheer and BBC are asking cannot be >discussed intelligently. You're our last defense against idiocy! Doug

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Date:	Wed Jan 12 12:25:01 PST 2005

19075 [lbo-talk] Armstrong as self-syndicator -- rank: 1000

Yeah. Carrol Cox has been insulting people in the nastiest terms for years with never even a hint of apology and I've run out of patience with it. Doug amadeus amadeus wrote: >Wow, you'll have to forgive me, because I'm new here... but... this >is the moderator of your list??? > >Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > > > >Put a cork in the insults, Cox. I'm really tired of your act. You >spew more insults than the rest of the listmembers combined, and I & ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Jan 12 10:28:57 PST 2005

19076 [lbo-talk] Stop Flogging the Dead Donkey and Own the Power of a Spoiler -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Can leftists, whether they voted for Kerry or Nader or any other >candidate in 2004, stop flogging the dead donkey and (like Frederick >Douglass) resolve to own the power of a spoiler from now on? Uh, no. Who the hell wants to be just a spoiler? Bush II is as likely to be as bad as anyone feared, and it isn't even Jan 20 yet. If you can't acknowledge that, then your audience is going to be severely limited. The point should be how best to organize so that the on ...

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Date:	Wed Jan 12 10:03:01 PST 2005

19077 [lbo-talk] Armstrong as self-syndicator -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >Thos who come to the game just before the election and ask people to "vote >their conscience" and similar rubbish are like that guy in an old Polack >joke who brings a duck to a cockfight. Is there something lost in the translation, or is the punch line missing? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Jan 12 09:57:45 PST 2005

19078 [lbo-talk] Does Al Qaeda Exist? -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson wrote: >The willful thickness of you hoax fetishists is as necessary and predictable >to your hyper-liberal twaddle as it is stunning to those of us who care >about how power actually works. > >You and I both know what conspiracy theory you're peddling. It's the >pathetic one that suggests Al Qaeda doesn't exist and that Dick Cheney flew >those jets into their targets. There's an extremely sensible piece in the New York Review of Books <http://www.nybooks. ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Jan 12 09:56:39 PST 2005

19079 [lbo-talk] Relevant Recent LBO Poisoning of Discourse [Fwd: Re: Jonathan Nitzan on Against the Grain] -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Why don't >they argue it instead of making fools of themselves with gradeschool >sneers. Before others answer that question, could you explain why it's ok for you to argue with sneers? Doug

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Date:	Wed Jan 12 06:31:50 PST 2005

19080 [lbo-talk] more Armstrong Williams scandal -- rank: 1000

<http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?pS6> Conservative columnist who took $240k from Bush criticized NAACP for sexual harassment and economic "improprieties" after settling his own sexual harassment suit Armstrong Williams lashed out at NAACP for sex harassment after settling harassment suit himself By John Byrne RAW STORY Editor The conservative columnist who was fired after accepting $240,000 to promote Bush's 'No Child Left Behind' law rebuked the NAACP for "charges of sex ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Jan 11 17:48:39 PST 2005