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18706 [lbo-talk] Leigh flips out -- rank: 1000

JBrown72073 at cs.com wrote: >Or are they taking >a longer view and talking about the French Revolution? I thought it was too early to tell on that one. Doug

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 15:15:01 PDT 2005

18707 [lbo-talk] aphorism -- rank: 1000

[from a sig line on another list] "Only intellectuals love poverty. Poor people love luxury" (from a Brazilian samba)

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 14:39:45 PDT 2005

18708 [lbo-talk] Iraq buddies up with Iran; PM lays wreath on Khomeini's tomb -- rank: 1000

[gosh, was this what Perle, Hitchens & Co. had in mind?] Financial Times - July 19, 2005 Iraqi delegation cements ties with Iran By Gareth Smyth in Tehran A high-level Iraqi delegation led by Ibrahim al-Jaafari, prime minister, headed home yesterday from Iran after opening what both sides see as a new era in their relations. Leading 10 ministers, Mr Jaafari used a three-day visit to cement ties - in spite of Washington's stepped-up hostility to Iran after Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad, an Islamic fun ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 14:11:40 PDT 2005

18709 [lbo-talk] Leigh flips out -- rank: 1000

James Heartfield wrote: >The true voice of the impotent nihilist, too spineless to change his >own society, longing for the saviour from the East to sweep away all >the corruption. Dreaming of a war that he is not man enough to fight >himself, dreaming of daddy bin Laden saving him from the bully Bush >or Blair. Then imposing sharia, under which I'm sure Leigh would thrive. Doug

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 12:03:28 PDT 2005

18710 [lbo-talk] AFL-CIO news -- rank: 1000

<http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=156238> House of Labor: Just asking.. Which AFL-CIO official is said to be hinting to reporters that he will succeed John Sweeney as AFL-CIO President? Which two current AFL-CIO unions may join C2W after the convention? Which paragraph in this story will most upset NTEU and AFGE? <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/18/AR2005071801476.html> On A2 of the print edition, the Wall Street Journal's Kris Maher looks ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 11:52:31 PDT 2005

18711 [lbo-talk] KPFA Agonisties -- rank: 1000

Jim Devine wrote: >In economic terms, a ball-bearing factory usually has few external >costs and benefits, while a radio station uses publicly-owned >resources (airwaves) and has a lot of external costs & benefits. Ball-bearing factories use the public infrastructure, consume natural resources, create pollution, have suppliers and customers...

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 11:27:09 PDT 2005

18712 [lbo-talk] Hersh on Iraq election -- rank: 1000

<http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050725fa_fact> [...] It is not known why the President would reject one program to intervene in the election and initiate another, more covert one. According to Pentagon consultants and former senior intelligence officials, there was a growing realization within the White House that most Sunnis would indeed boycott the election. Getting accurate polls in a country under occupation, with an active insurgency, was, of course, difficult. But the ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 11:15:02 PDT 2005

18713 [lbo-talk] KPFA Agonisties -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >In the case of public radio, should the staff always get to decide >what goes on the air? If management is elected by the listenership, >they may better reflect those interests than the staff. There are a lot of complicated issues here. How do you define the listenership? Are there residency requirements? The kind of programming the station features will, to a large extent, determine the listenership. What if that programming is so weird and marginal that the list ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 11:08:10 PDT 2005

18714 [lbo-talk] KPFA Agonisties -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >Like Moran, Wanzala stressed that any >investigation should go beyond Campanella. “I >thought we needed an institutional audit,” he >said. “There’s a pattern of the staff resisting >efforts by the general manager ... It’s not a >question of getting the right person and all >will be well.” How do you feel about workers at other institutions selecting their manager and having control over the workplace? Would that be a good model for a ball-bearing facto ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 09:52:55 PDT 2005

18715 [lbo-talk] CNN: Rove story "bullshit" -- rank: 1000

<http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/07/15.html#a3964> CNN's "That's Bullshit" Coverage Lou Dobbs Tonight, (7/15/05) as Lou was introducing a piece on the Rove story. Lou says, "...Rove testifying that he first learned about Plame from columnist Robert Novak, a CNN contributor. Danna Bash reports." Immediately after that you can clearly hear a female voice on mic whispering "that's bullshit". Then Dana Bash continues with her report. Video-WMP only (it's low q ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 09:48:21 PDT 2005

18716 [lbo-talk] Finding the elephant in the room -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >CB: Is there anyway to get me in as a dishonorable white man ? I said honorary, not honorable! But you'd be an honorable anything.

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 08:28:15 PDT 2005

18717 [lbo-talk] Finding the elephant in the room -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >Transitional arrangements _without_ the U.S. involved. When I quoted Christian Parenti saying that that was the wish of substantial numbers of Iraqis in the summer of 2003, Carrol Cox was inspired to quote "The White Man's Burden." I guess that makes you an honorary white man, Charles! Doug

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 07:37:43 PDT 2005

18718 [lbo-talk] happy birthday Marcuse -- rank: 1000

New from DIRELAND, July 19, 2005 <http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/07/remembering_her.html> REMEMBERING HERBERT MARCUSE Today is the 105th birthday of the late social philosopher Herbert Marcuse, whose writings have much to teach us that is of enormous value for how to think about where we are today. How one wishes he were still here -- but, in many ways, he is....

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Date:	Tue Jul 19 06:54:11 PDT 2005

18719 [lbo-talk] Re: blowing people up the right way -- rank: 1000

frank scott wrote: >just wondering which causes more death: college graduate eastern >suicide bomber fanatics or, college graduate non suicide western >air force bombers, like george bush, george mcgovern, howard zinn... > >any polls that can tell us? > >sample question: > >would you prefer having your brains blown out by a suicidal fanatic >who'd die to be a hero, or by a reasonable person who'd live to be >a hero? Gee you're so witty, and your observations s ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 18 20:46:14 PDT 2005

18720 [lbo-talk] The End of Hitchens -- rank: 1000

Jacob Segal wrote: >Far worse is the willingness of the New York >Times to accept the demented premise of a prosecutor who has put one of its >own writers behind bars. Now "Judge Starr," as Hitch liked to call him (as in "I'm very grateful for Judge Starr") - he was a real prosecutor! Doug

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