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18511 [lbo-talk] 265 cracks of the whip -- rank: 1000

...for the Marquis de Sade, whose birthday is today.

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Date:	Thu Jun 2 12:43:14 PDT 2005

18512 [lbo-talk] A Bane Amid The Housing Boom: Rising Foreclosures -- rank: 1000

Leigh Meyers wrote: >People are "banking"(gambling, really) on the increase in home >value as a form of "interest income"/savings. But a capital gain on an asset is not a form of savings. As Keynes said somewhere, savings and investment are two names for the same thing, foregone consumption. Money has value only because it's a claim on real goods and services. Income is the other side of production, and if you save out of income, you're choosing not to consume goods and ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 2 12:41:04 PDT 2005

18513 [lbo-talk] Appeal to Ignorance -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >Doesn't the Roman Catholic Church have a pretty >rigorous (whatever that means in this context) >miracle-hoax-debunking process? They're not morons. You mean they've fact-checked the Virgin Birth? The bodily assumption of the BVM into heaven? The resurrection of Jesus? If they have, I may have to return to the fold. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jun 2 12:34:34 PDT 2005

18514 [lbo-talk] Shiller on housing bubble -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - June 2, 2005 People Are TalkingŠ By ROBERT J. SHILLER The home price boom in the U.S. has had a peculiar form since it began in the late 1990s: Home price increases have been getting stronger and stronger each year, year after year. According to the inflation-adjusted Case-Shiller home price index from Fiserv CSW, Inc., real U.S. home prices, after falling 0.5% in 1996, rose 2.1% in 1997, 5.4% in 1998, 5.4% in 1999, 5.8% in 2000, 5.8% in 2001, 8.1% in 2002, 8.5% in 2003, an ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 2 08:41:29 PDT 2005

18515 [lbo-talk] John & Andrea -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - June 2, 2005 ODDEST COUPLE SOME of the elderly staffers at AARP The Magazine in D.C. are agog over revelations in New York magazine about managing editor John Stoltenberg, 60. It was no secret Stoltenberg was the husband of radical feminist Andrea Dworkin, who died in April. But Ariel Levy's article reveals that Stoltenberg, who is gay, never consummated his marriage with Dworkin, who claimed to be a lesbian although a close friend said, "In 30-plus years of knowi ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 2 08:17:04 PDT 2005

18516 [lbo-talk] New Sex drugs -- rank: 1000

joanna wrote: >I'm so confused. Do orgasms have to exist for a reason? Why couldn't >they be related to just the sheer joy of sensual pleasure and >opening/trusting the other? Why do we have to make an instrument of >everything? You plainly don't have what it takes to be a sociobiologist! Doug

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Date:	Wed Jun 1 21:50:48 PDT 2005

18517 [lbo-talk] A Bane Amid The Housing Boom: Rising Foreclosures -- rank: 1000

Jordan Hayes wrote: >For many people, not having a >mortgage means no savings at all. A mortgage is a debt, not a form of savings. And a house is not a form of capital - it has no yield in the form of interest or profit. At best, it offers the possibility of a speculative profit - which can only be meaningfully realized if you trade down to a smaller house or a cheaper market. I feel like I've stepped through the looking glass. Doug

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Date:	Wed Jun 1 21:26:39 PDT 2005

18518 [lbo-talk] How tourism transformed Morocco -- rank: 1000

uvj at vsnl.com wrote: >What's a developmental state? Marxist theory has traditionally used >terms like "bourgeois state" etc. I don't know what's a >developmental state. A state that very actively promotes (capitalist) development through some sort of (capitalist) planning - e.g. Japan and South Korea. Doug

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Date:	Wed Jun 1 19:17:12 PDT 2005

18519 [lbo-talk] EU votes -- rank: 1000

joanna wrote: >Can anyone tell me which countries voted YES via popular vote and >which by legislative fiat? According to a table in today's FT: Ratified by parliamentary vote (and a parl vote isn't exactly a fiat is it?): Austria, Belgium, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia Parl vote & referendum: Spain Up for parl vote: Cyprus, Estonia, Poland, Latvia, Malta, Sweden To hold referendum: Czech, Denmark, Ireland, Luxembourg, Neth (the result we know), Poland, ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Jun 1 17:39:52 PDT 2005

18520 [lbo-talk] bile -- rank: 1000

Jim Farmelant wrote: >Hey, he says that you're just like Proyect. I can't imagine >that either you or Proyect would be very comfortable with >this comparison. Pretty funny. But I feel like I've had some sort of spontaneous truce with LNP. As John Mage said the other week when we had dinner with him, I'm tired of all the food fights. Doug

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Date:	Wed Jun 1 14:13:46 PDT 2005

18521 [lbo-talk] Fwd: New Feminist Magazine for Teens launches! :-) -- rank: 1000

Hello! My name is Melody Berger and I'm a senior majoring in Women's Studies at Temple University in Philadelphia. I wrote to you several months ago about the feminist magazine I was starting for teens, and I just wanted to let you know that our first issue is online now! :-) Check it out! <http://www.thef-wordzine.com> (and forward zee link like mad, por favor?) Peace~ Melody

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Date:	Wed Jun 1 13:18:06 PDT 2005

18522 [lbo-talk] bile -- rank: 1000

John Bizwas wrote: > > Can you, just once, omit the bilious tone? Or are you so righteous, >> and the rest of us so benighted, that you just can't help it? >> >> Doug > >To be quite honest with you, I find both you and Louis Proyect two >of the most bilious-toned people I've ever encountered on the >internet. I mean, what am I supposed to do? Take pointers from your >bilious responses to people like Carrol Cox--or responses to just >about anyone you a ...

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Date:	Wed Jun 1 13:05:25 PDT 2005

18523 [lbo-talk] Re: theism, atheism and dont give a fuckism -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: An average of 5.5 posts over the last 4 days. The limit is 3. Doug

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Date:	Wed Jun 1 12:31:36 PDT 2005

18524 [lbo-talk] Re: Vive La France! -- rank: 1000

Jordan Hayes wrote: >For all the money Canadians spend on their healthcare, they could have >much better care in the US. But since it would come out of their wallet >(instead of having it taken directly by the government via their high >taxes) they might think they were getting a bad deal. But they'd >probably be wrong. What are you basing this on? Most of the studies I've seen say that the U.S. gets a very bad deal on its health care spending, if you measure outcomes vs. expend ...

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Date:	Wed Jun 1 11:06:24 PDT 2005

18525 [lbo-talk] Re: Let's review basic social science (was 'Desertion -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: >On 6/1/05, John Bizwas <bizwas at lycos.com> wrote:He most >likely meant by 'CB' the Chicago Boyz... > > No, Charles Brown. I apologize for calling him a simpleton. Thank you.

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Date:	Wed Jun 1 10:34:15 PDT 2005