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18226 [lbo-talk] U.S. working class: functionally literate -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Do you people realize how utterly ridiculous you are sounding. I went to >a three-room rural elementary school. Half my 8th grade class didn't >even go on to highschool. Only 2 out of 20 of us every went to college. So things have gotten better? You triumphed over long odds? Things are hopeless in the sticks? I'm not one for the tale of endless decline, but do you think that crappy mass education has anything to do with the weakness of the U.S. working class? Doug

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18227 [lbo-talk] "Ward Churchill's Military Claims Proven False" (was: Ward Churchill's Vietnam war record) -- rank: 1000

Thomas Seay wrote: >Ok, so he lied 20 years ago. Big shit. Let he who >hasnt lied or did something fucked up 20 years be the >one to throw the first stone. Fuck it. It doesn't mattter. I'm distressed to see it coming up here. Doug

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18228 [lbo-talk] Query -- rank: 1000

C. G. Estabrook wrote: >the bishop of Rome Speaking of which...I love Popbitch, but I especially love the special Popebitch ish out this morning. Doug ---- "Dogs fucked the pope" - Raoul Duke ----------------------------------------------------- POPEBITCH _ __ ___ _ __ ___| |__ (_) |_ ___| |__ | '_ \ / _ \| '_ \ / _ \ '_ \| | __/ __| '_ \ | |_) | (_) | |_) | __/ |_) | | || (__| | | | | .__/ \___/| .__/ \___|_.__/|_|\__\___|_| |_| |_| |_| 03.02.05 issue 247 Free e ...

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18229 [lbo-talk] U.S. working class: surlier than ever? -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: ><blockquote> etc. Eight posts today, five yesterday. The limit is three. Doug

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18230 [lbo-talk] U.S. working class: functionally literate -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > >>My hypothesis is that poor service is an index of retail workers' >>excellent quantitative literacy that is not measured by Adult >>Literacy Surveys. When customers ask dumb questions about >>products, retail workers's working-class calculators automatically >>start crunching numbers, regarding the proportions of profit >>margins on the products in question that go into their paychecks >>and the pro ...

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18231 [lbo-talk] RE: talk about getting your finger on the pulse of the country -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >Hmm, I suspect beer was poured copiously into Ptahhotep because this >is definitely a beer-goggles view of the scribe's life, surely as >unenviable four millennia ago as today. Beats the hell out of digging ditches or stuffing circuit boards. Doug

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18232 [lbo-talk] Wsjrnl: Argentina's Hardball May Pa -- rank: 1000

RE quoted the WSJ: >While that may be good news for Argentina, for the broader emerging bond >market, it could prove much less cheerful. The consequences of a default are >so punishing that few investors think Argentina's experience of spiraling >unemployment, rising crime and political unrest will encourage other >countries to suspend interest payments. Those bad things didn't come from the default - they came from the economic collapse that happened when the old neoliberal model ...

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18233 [lbo-talk] Harris on Iraq -- rank: 1000

<http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=544> The Harris PollŪ #14, February 18, 2005 Iraq, 9/11, Al Qaeda and Weapons of Mass Destruction: What the Public Believes Now, According to Latest Harris Poll The latest Harris Poll conducted following the recent elections in Iraq finds that on many aspects U.S. adults have not changed their basic views about Iraq with one important exception: The number of adults who favor bringing troops home in the next year has increased sig ...

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Date:	Wed Mar 2 18:22:07 PST 2005

18234 [lbo-talk] RE: Hunter Thompson ? -- rank: 1000

Michael, could you refrain from insulting people when you disagree with them? - Doug louis kontos wrote: >'the violence inherent in your system'. such nonsense from you all >the time. i mean all the time. what gives? > >On Mar 2, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Michael Dawson wrote: > >>You're claiming that software cropped your original post that way? Now we >>see the violence inherent in your system... >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: lbo-talk-bou ...

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18235 [lbo-talk] U.S. working class: buncha morons -- rank: 1000

Matthew Snyder wrote: >Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> quoted CG&C: >> · 50% of the U.S. population aged 16-65 is functionally illiterate. > >This statistic is, ironically, based on a rather poor reading of the >NALS report from which it's drawn. The real number is significantly >lower. > >See, for example,: > http://archive.ala.org/alonline/crawford/cf602.html > http://nces.ed.gov/naal/resources/92results.asp > >Hopefully the up ...

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18236 [lbo-talk] RE: Hunter Thompson ? -- rank: 1000

Jordan Hayes wrote: >Of course, the rest of the story shows Joseph didn't read the whole story. > >http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=4&i=822&t=822 And in case anyone didn't follow that link, here are the first two paragraphs: >Hunter telephoned me on Feb. 19, the night before his death. He >sounded scared. It wasn't always easy to understand what he said, >particularly over the phone, he mumbled, yet when there was >something he really wanted you to unde ...

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18237 [lbo-talk] RE: Kazimierz Witaszewski -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >Similarly, if >people who live in the city of Auschwitz want to build >a disco at the train station that leads to the death >camp, that must be a sign of Polish anti-Semitism, as >opposed to the train station just being a good place >to build a disco. I was with you up until this point - how could it be a good idea to build a disco in Auschwitz station? What else, a honky-tonk at Wounded Knee? Doug

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18238 [lbo-talk] U.S. working class: buncha morons -- rank: 1000

[this is the conclusion to a press release from the headhunting firm Challenger Gray & Christmas, reporting on their monthly tally of layoff announcements, which was way up in Feb.] The other factor that may be starting to contribute to more job cuts, according to Challenger, is the widening gap between the skills workers have and the skills needed by today's employers. "Forget about labor shortages caused by the retiring generation of Baby Boomers. The real problem over the next 10 to ...

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18239 [lbo-talk] A Very Long Engagement -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Conscription was employed during the Civil War, World War 2, the >Korean War, and the Vietnam War as well as many other wars and >interventions, but, contrary to the myth, the Vietnam War didn't see >the worst desertion rates. I'm guessing, though, that not too many grunts in WW2 did drugs and shot their commanding officers. So what's your point here? I'm not sure I follow. Doug

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18240 [lbo-talk] A Very Long Engagement -- rank: 1000

lbo at inkworkswell.com wrote: >a famous diatribe about the state of the military You thinking of this? ><http://chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/Vietnam/heinl.html> > > >THE COLLAPSE OF THE ARMED FORCES > >By Col. Robert D. Heinl, Jr. >North American Newspaper Alliance >Armed Forces Journal, 7 June, 1971 An excerpt: >Non-Volunteer Force? > >If 45% of his sailors shipped over after their first enlistment, >Admiral Zumwalt would be all smiles. With only ...

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