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18001 [lbo-talk] Trying To Understand Marta's POV -- rank: 1000

ravi wrote: >don't tell me LBO is the only list that is unaware of godwin's law? Heavens no. I'm an old-timer! We've got it going on two threads now - the ecofascism thing, and the Schaivo thing. If we get back on Churchill, we could score a hat trick. Doug

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 13:04:34 PST 2005

18002 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

Just added to my radio archive <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>: March 24, 2005 Simon Head, author of an excellent roundup-on Wal-Mart in the New York Review of Books (which prompted a two-page rebuttal ad from Wal-Mart!) and of The New Ruthless Economy, on what's wrong with Wal-Mart * three staffers from $pread magazine (Mary Christmas, Eliyanna, and Mercedes) on sex work it joins -------- March 17, 2005 Anatol Lieven, author of America Right or Wrong, on Wolfowitz, " ...

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 12:43:50 PST 2005

18003 [lbo-talk] Shaivo finale on my part (for real) -- rank: 1000

Miles Jackson wrote: >bullshitting about stuff you know a little about >is a favorite American sport And the ability to do that well has long been touted as one of the virtues of an Ivy League education!

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 11:49:43 PST 2005

18004 [lbo-talk] Disability perspective: Overlooked in the Shadows -- rank: 1000

Marta, I have enormous respect for your work, which is why I asked you to write for LBO and why I've had you on my radio show several times, and would be eager to do both again. But this stuff is really way around the bend. Marta Russell quoted: >* Ms. Schiavo is not dependent on life support. Legally, a feeding tube is life support. > Her lungs, >kidneys, heart and digestive systems work fine. Except she has no cerebral cortex. I imagine it'd be theoretically possible to keep a headle ...

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 11:46:55 PST 2005

18005 [lbo-talk] Re: living death -- rank: 1000

C. G. Estabrook wrote: >Even if that's true -- and I think it's at best a rather reductionist >reading -- haven't we recently agreed that the motives for holding a >position are no guide to the truth of that position? You & Carrol Cox have established that; I'm not entirely convinced myself. But I don't get what you see as "reductionist" about my assertion. Polls show evangelical Christians to be about evenly divided on the issue, with the rest of the pop heavily in favor ...

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 10:51:40 PST 2005

18006 [lbo-talk] the stupidity crisis deepens -- rank: 1000

<http://www.gawker.com/news/media/cnn/index.php#this-just-in-were-morons-037152> This Just In: We're Morons Filed under Media : CNN Wow, we thought for a second there we'd left our copy of Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy in the DVD player. How else to explain this utterly stupid banter we just heard on CNN's Live From: Miles O'Brien: Well, it looks like we're talking about another revolution in a country some of us can't pronounce. We're not mentioning any names, of course. It's kind ...

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 09:51:38 PST 2005

18007 [lbo-talk] Churchill update: Thomas Brown can cheer -- rank: 1000

Chronicle of Higher Education - web daily - March 25, 2005 U. of Colorado Will Investigate Allegations of Misconduct Against Controversial Professor By SCOTT SMALLWOOD Administrators at the University of Colorado at Boulder have affirmed that the First Amendment protects statements made by Ward Churchill, the ethnic-studies professor who likened victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks to "little Eichmanns." But a seven-week review of the professor's work, they said, turned up allegations ...

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 09:39:29 PST 2005

18008 [lbo-talk] Re: living death -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >But, why in a nation where one third of the population can't afford >to go to the doctor, there should be this kind of upheaval for >keeping a woman in a vegetative state indefinitely....I haven't a >clue. It's a small minority of well-organized religious fanatics plus a party in power that wants to pander to its base, and assumes (maybe wrongly) that it has nothing to lose by alienating everyone else.

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 09:26:10 PST 2005

18009 [lbo-talk] Ralph weighs in -- rank: 1000

[from ABC News's The Note] Ralph Nader, in a news release, calls on the courts to save Schiavo's life. He and Wesley J. Smith wrote: "Benefits of doubts should be given to life, not hastened death. This case is rife with doubt. Justice demands that Terri be permitted to live."

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 09:16:51 PST 2005

18010 [lbo-talk] Schindlers once agreed TS was in a PVS -- rank: 1000

Miami Herald - March 25, 2005 Husband, in-laws once were united in caring for Terri Before the fighting, Michael Schiavo and his in-laws cared for Terri Schiavo together. The Schindlers urged him to date, and later agreed on the extent of her damage. BY CARA BUCKLEY PINELLAS PARK - For years, even after suspicion drove them apart and pitted them in a fierce legal fight, Michael Schiavo and his in-laws seemed to agree on one thing: that Terri, his wife and their daughter, was in a persistent vege ...

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 09:15:27 PST 2005

18011 [lbo-talk] Trying To Understand Marta's POV -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >--- Dwayne Monroe <idoru345 at yahoo.com> wrote: >>From that POV, Schiavo is not an irreparably >damaged >shell of a once fully alive human being, but a >disabled person in need >of >protection from predatory, uncaring or >misunderstanding non-disabled >people. >-- > >Sorry, but a person with no cerebral cortex is not >disabled. He/she is dead. This thing has been litigated to death. By Henninger's count in the WSJ, there have be ...

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 08:52:12 PST 2005

18012 [lbo-talk] Re: living death -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >It sets the new >low of how barbaric the ruling class and a sizeable chunk of this country >have become. The polls say that it's not a very sizeable chunk - less than 20% of the public supports DeLay & Jeb, and Congress' approval rating is at a multiyear low. Doug

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 08:33:32 PST 2005

18013 [lbo-talk] chutzpah -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: A fifth post, which bounced because it was over the length limit. Yoshie, I've put you on moderation. I'll approve the first three posts of the day without even looking at them, and delete the rest. What's annoying about this isn't just the repeated violation of the posting limits - it's the form of the posts, which are almost always lectures and <blockquotes> and not conversation. This is supposed to be a dialogue, not a monoblogue. Doug

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 07:00:58 PST 2005

18014 [lbo-talk] Shaivo finale on my part (for real) -- rank: 1000

John Adams wrote: >This case is an issue because the part of the concern which should >be private--an end of life decision about an individual--has been >made public rather than private Not exactly - defining the end of life and how to deal with these matters is a very political problem. It involves technology, finance, and meaning-of-life issues, which are all very public concerns. Doug

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 06:52:30 PST 2005

18015 [lbo-talk] Shaivo finale on my part (for real) -- rank: 1000

Marta Russell wrote: >There is no evidence that is what Terri expressed. Courts have repeatedly found that she did express exactly that. This is from a WSJ opinion piece by Daniel Henninger arguing that while the court decisions are legally correct, Michael Schaivo is morally culpable for not turning Terri over to her parents. >The U.S. Supreme Court declined yesterday to intervene in the >Schiavo case. The original court decision, the basis and cause for >all that we have witnessed ...

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Date:	Fri Mar 25 06:45:16 PST 2005