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17836 [lbo-talk] Re: alt-porn & explicit content -- rank: 1000

Now, boys. Be nice. Doug Michael Dawson wrote: >Yes, right. Grace says heterosexual spouses are whores and pimps, and I'm >rude. Very nice. This kind of obtuseness to knee-jerk slander is a huge >part of why we get laughed at. Can we stick up for lesbians without pooping >in the punchbowl? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] >> On Behalf Of Autoplectic >> Sent: Saturday, ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat May 7 10:13:53 PDT 2005

17837 [lbo-talk] From failed, surreal dreams to a plague of fantasies -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Dennis Perrin wrote: > >>None that I can see. Watching porn today is akin to shopping for >>hammers at Ace -- tedious, dull, literal. Add an incredible amount >>of misogyny and contempt for humanity and you pretty much have what >>now passes for porn. > >That's an incredibly ignorant, reactionary statement. > >Perhaps your tastes are the problem. <donning moderator's cap> Chuck I know Dennis, and he's not an ignorant, reactionary mor ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat May 7 10:10:25 PDT 2005

17838 [lbo-talk] employment -- rank: 1000

Mark S wrote: >I wasn't clear. I believe that they were alluding to the revisions >that occur in the series: "Today's data should remind observers that >seasonal distortions and errors in measurement can drive the bulk of >the month-to-month variation in employment." They think that Easter >messed up some earlier seasonally-adjusted indicators, including >jobless claims. Many trends are looking better - for now. Ah. The seasonals on the jobless claims series are ama ...

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Date:	Sat May 7 09:46:26 PDT 2005

17839 [lbo-talk] If Blair wins, what conclusions should be reached? -- rank: 1000

Mike Ballard wrote: >2. As long as the wage system in the major capitalist democracies >is functioning as well as it does, the proles will resist rational >arguments to abolish it i.e. they'd rather watch TV or, if they're >"hip", play with their i-pods. I'm too old to be "hip," but I still love my iPod. >3. However, it will start dawning on more and more proles that the >system is causing them and their offspring real harm as Global Warming >and other ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat May 7 09:32:56 PDT 2005

17840 [lbo-talk] Patti Smith on naked broads -- rank: 1000

Apropos the recent thread, I just came across this old quote: I don't feel exploited by pictures of naked broads. I like that stuff. If it's a bad photograph or the girl's ugly, then that pisses me off. Shit, I think bodies are great. -Patti Smith

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat May 7 09:25:48 PDT 2005

17841 [lbo-talk] Stop Labeling and Start Organizing! -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >This is the sort of thing it is easy to say if you are merely sitting on >the sidelines and giving a critique of the show. It doesn't help if you >are interested in actually participating in changing the world. I'm confused. I could swear you've said a hundred times that it's highly unlikely "we" could ever convert "them" to our cause, so "we" should concentrate on organizing "us" and forego proselytizing "them." So if ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat May 7 09:17:33 PDT 2005

17842 [lbo-talk] Fwd: new radio product -- rank: 1000

Just added to my radio archive <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>: May 5, 2005 Eesha Pandit of the Civil Liberties and Public Policy Program, Hampshire College, on broadening the reproductive rights debate beyond "choice" * journalist Ian Williams on the UN (and the British election) it joins -------- April 28, 2005 Rahul Mahajan, author and blogger, on the U.S. empire * Stephanie Thayer and Ward Dennis on Brooklyn redevelopment (with an introductory piece produced ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri May 6 15:22:40 PDT 2005

17843 [lbo-talk] Re: alt-porn & explicit content -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson wrote: >I'm not against legalizing whoring, and I'm against the idea of jails, if we >can ever get to a state of society where they prove to be unneeded. But to >talk about these two things as near-term political platform planks is >suicidal. So instead of going 100%, why not take realistic half-steps? Urge the cops to stop bothering sex workers, and the criminal justice system to stop putting so many people in jail. I thought there were even some Republican governors ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri May 6 13:33:30 PDT 2005

17844 [lbo-talk] Re: alt-porn & explicit content -- rank: 1000

Leigh Meyers wrote: >That's the life of a "mid-priced" prostitute. Clearly she needs to be rescued by an eavesdropping hippie. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri May 6 12:55:38 PDT 2005

17845 [lbo-talk] Stop Labeling and Start Organizing! -- rank: 1000

Chip Berlet wrote: >Why would an organizer start out by offending half their potential >audience with language that is abrasive? Would it have been ok to call racist Southern whites in the Jim Crow era racist thugs? If someone holds an offensive, reactionary, or ludicrous set of beliefs, can't we call them offensive, reactionary, or ludicrous? A lot of them sure aren't very considerate of us. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri May 6 12:52:13 PDT 2005

17846 [lbo-talk] labor could get tagged -- rank: 1000

Jeffrey Fisher wrote: >what's a "trophy layoff"? Big numbers coming from blue-chip names like IBM. GM could accommodate. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri May 6 12:49:41 PDT 2005

17847 [lbo-talk] on the brink of theocracy -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >>From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> >> >>You could read the Xtreme Xians as a derriere-garde action ... > >Perhaps, but what a humongous derriere it is. But if they don't tack on more young people, the derriere's gonna shrink. Doug

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Date:	Fri May 6 10:08:37 PDT 2005

17848 [lbo-talk] labor could get tagged -- rank: 1000

Ed Hyman, Wall Street's favorite economist (whose skill is producing tomorrow's conventional wisdom today) writes in today's commentary: >LABOR COULD GET TAGGED IN 2005 > >There are a number of reasons 2005 could be a negative year for >labor, similar to Reagan's air-traffic controllers firings in 1981. > >1) Assuming the economy slows, airlines and autos, two cyclical >industries, will come under more intense pressure to obtain labor >concessions. > >2) Like today, ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri May 6 10:06:38 PDT 2005

17849 [lbo-talk] God bless America: North Carolina Baptist church excommunicates all Democrats -- rank: 1000

Lance Murdoch quoted: >bi-laws Is this part of Yoshie's plan to make capitalism gay? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri May 6 10:02:00 PDT 2005

17850 [lbo-talk] on the brink of theocracy -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >I am afraid that in twenty or so years those who are still left in this >fucking god's hellhole will be saluting the cross with "Heil Jesus." Except that the share of seculars in the population has doubled over the last decade, and Gen Y is more secular than its predecessors. You could read the Xtreme Xians as a derriere-garde action, and not an avant-garde. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri May 6 09:01:30 PDT 2005