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16831 [lbo-talk] God cleaned up NO public housing -- rank: 1000

[from the Washington Wire, by John Harwood, in today's WSJ] House Republican campaign chief Reynolds touts chance to market conservative social-policy solutions; Rep. Baker of Baton Rouge is overheard telling lobbyists: "We finally cleaned up public housing in New Orleans. We couldn't do it, but God did." Baker explains later he didn't intend flippancy but has long wanted to improve low-income housing.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 9 07:04:10 PDT 2005

16832 [lbo-talk] Cuba/USA Contrasts in Hurricane Damage Prevention -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: >On 9/8/05, Lionel Mandrake <brotherlyshove at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Well, then, who cares if any of its true or not. > > In this case it is. So the Milosevic connection was irrelevant, but you brought it up anyway. What's that supposed to accomplish? This isn't a very Milosevic-friendly forum, you know. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 9 07:00:08 PDT 2005

16833 [lbo-talk] Cuba/USA Contrasts in Hurricane Damage Prevention -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: > Marjorie Cohn....a name familiar to me as a law professor who has >authored many a pro-Milosevic screed. Was anything she said in that thrice-posted article wrong, or did you just bring this up to annoy people? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 9 06:58:02 PDT 2005

16834 [lbo-talk] Chavez to Speak in NYC's Riverside Church on Sep. 16th -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: > What I'm sick of. Yes, we know what you're sick of. What I don't understand is why you spend so much time obsessing about it. It's like you want to keep re-fighting the battles of the 1930s or 1970s when they're relevant only to a handful of people. You seem to go out of your way to provoke fights. That can be intellectually stimulating sometimes, but when you get carried away with it, it's pointlessly belligerent. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 9 06:55:56 PDT 2005

16835 [lbo-talk] Chavez to Speak in NYC's Riverside Church on Sep. 16th -- rank: 1000

John Lacny wrote: >Marvin, you give Pugliese too much of the benefit of the doubt. What >you say would be true if he were at all honest or if he ever said >anything even remotely interesting. In this case, he's the one who's >guilty of precisely the polemical crimes you criticize. He calls >members of a black church "useful idiots" for hosting the >democratically-elected president of Venezuela. > >Wojtek -- despite his relentless and often tiresome misanthropy - ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 9 06:24:14 PDT 2005

16836 [lbo-talk] Chavez to Speak in NYC's Riverside Church on Sep. 16th -- rank: 1000

Marvin Gandall wrote: >Amen. I mostly don't agree with MP's views on Chavez, Lenin or Cuba, but is >criticism - even sharp criticism - of any or all of the foregoing forbidden >on the left? It's become a cliche, but we ought to be able to defend our >positions without resorting to personal attack, especially those amalgams >which place an opponent in the enemy camp in the same way critics of >Stalinism were once denounced as being in league with the fascists. It's not >a mat ...

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Date:	Fri Sep 9 06:08:55 PDT 2005

16837 [lbo-talk] Chavez to Speak in NYC's Riverside Church on Sep. 16th -- rank: 1000

Cseniornyc at aol.com wrote: >D Henwood writes:"t's extreeeeeeemly unlikely that Chavez will show >up for this event. >Would you, if the US Goverment wanted you dead, and so did Pat >Robertson?" >********************************************************************************************************* >It'd be too obvious to have Chavez done in NYC. >On the other hand, ...maybe Michael Pugliese already >volunteered...maybe he's doing target practice, the target b ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 9 06:08:12 PDT 2005

16838 [lbo-talk] Chavez to Speak in NYC's Riverside Church on Sep. 16th -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: > Skepticism justified about electronic voting in the USA? Yes. The >same for Venezuela's Chavez? Nah! >http://agonist.org/story/2004/7/5/42913/99946 (also see the photo of >the shrine to Chavez there) Where we read: "Critics fear touchscreen voting machines in the Aug. 15 vote could fail spectacularly, exacerbating a crisis over Chavez's rule that has polarized the world's No. 5 oil exporter and killed dozens in sporadic political violence." Didn ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Sep 9 06:06:38 PDT 2005

16839 [lbo-talk] GWOT: a cost-benefit analysis -- rank: 1000

n terror" saves few lives: expert By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent 16 minutes ago WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. "war on terror" is saving fewer lives than just spending the money on disease prevention and research, and has probably caused deaths by taking money away from basic services, an expert said on Thursday. The accusation is not new, but Dr. Erica Frank of the Department of Family and Preventive Medicine at Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta sai ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 8 19:32:39 PDT 2005

16840 [lbo-talk] Chavez to Speak in NYC's Riverside Church on Sep. 16th -- rank: 1000

Cseniornyc at aol.com wrote: >Dear Friends and Supporters of Cuba Solidarity New York (CSNY), >> >> ATTEND SEPTEMBER 16 RALLY AT RIVERSIDE CHURCH WITH HUGO CHAVEZ AND >> RICARDO > > ALARCON! It's extreeeeeeemly unlikely that Chavez will show up for this event. Would you, if the US Goverment wanted you dead, and so did Pat Robertson? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 8 17:17:45 PDT 2005

16841 [lbo-talk] Fortune on global warming -- rank: 1000

Fortune - September 2, 2005 Fortune Features KATRINA'S AFTERMATH The High Cost Of Climate Change To some researchers, Katrina looks like a harbinger of much more catastrophic weather to come. By David Stipp To New Orleans residents, Hurricane Katrina must seem like an incredibly bad piece of meteorological luck that could only happen once in a lifetime. But to many climate researchers, it looks like a harbinger of things to come-with catastrophic regularity-as the world's atmosphere heats up. In ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 8 12:38:37 PDT 2005

16842 [lbo-talk] Wal-Mart at Forefront of Hurricane Relief -- rank: 1000

Leigh Meyers wrote: >I was attempting to clarify the extent of: >> *Everything* is coordinated out of Bentonville; > >That's all. Well it's pretty much everything. Store managers can't adjust the thermostats in their stores without permission. Every sale is in the Bentonville computers within an hour. They monitor weather forecasts to manage shipments - the gee-whiz example in that excellent CNBC special on them was that demand for poptarts goes up in advance of a hurricane, so t ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 8 12:14:08 PDT 2005

16843 [lbo-talk] Go Cheney yourself Mr Cheney -- rank: 1000

Steve Perry wrote: >doug--do you have a link to the clip to pass along? I got it as an email attachment, but I've uploaded it to: <http://shout.lbo-talk.org/lbo/Cheney_090805.wmv>. Cheney suggests the heckler is "a friend of John...," which sounds like he can't remember who his original target was. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 8 12:09:05 PDT 2005

16844 [lbo-talk] Go Cheney yourself Mr Cheney -- rank: 1000

A friend just sent a video clip of a live Cheney appearance on CNN from a couple of hours ago. Off camera, someone can be heard saying - twice - "Go fuck yourself, Mr Cheney." Is this making the rounds yet? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 8 11:32:20 PDT 2005

16845 [lbo-talk] Wal-Mart at Forefront of Hurricane Relief -- rank: 1000

Leigh Meyers wrote: > > Yeah, and studing the WMT logistics system could even revive some of >> the prestige of economic planning! *Everything* is coordinated out of >> Bentonville; it's a capitalist Gosplan. >> > >When I worked for a local department store, scanning inventory, >the scanner was satellite linked to a distributor in the central >valley(california), not the corporate headquarters. > >I'm not questioning the vertical intergration of the c ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 8 11:06:29 PDT 2005