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16366 [lbo-talk] The Christian War on Yuppies -- rank: 1000

SergioL652 at aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/17/2006 10:38:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >mpollak at panix.com writes: > >All the big stores are closed, and I have a hard time believing they'd do >> it if they didn't have to. > >That's only because its Easter Sunday. All other Sundays everything >is open at least until 5:00 PM Aha! It's my ancestral county, esp its shopping hub, Paramus. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_law> Bergen County, New Jersey O ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 19:38:49 PDT 2006

16367 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Mike Ballard wrote: >How can a >government remain a national entity What is so wonderful about retaining a national identity? Really? Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 19:36:17 PDT 2006

16368 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Chuck wrote: >Speaking of Canadianization, an academic from Canada who was at the >L.A. anarchist conference, talked about his research on how Canada >used the McKinley assassination to develop a more homogenous >Canadian identity. > >I can provide more details offlist if anybody is interested. Onlist, please. That sounds interesting. Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 19:35:35 PDT 2006

16369 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >There is one aspect of it that you seem to be >overlooking here - national identity politics. It is >not really about 21 languages (which I think is >wonderful thing), but about an immigrant minority >conspicously displaying their foreign nationalism an >allegiance in their host country - the flag, the >language, the customs, the separate identity. But that's not really the way things have historically worked in the US. Here, people assimilate - an ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 18:57:08 PDT 2006

16370 [lbo-talk] Prepare for Avian Terror Flu -- rank: 1000

Mitchel Cohen wrote: >Well, one reason is to enable Karl Rove to mastermind keeping the >Bush-Cheney regime in power against all the numbers and the revolt >of the retired generals now occurring, as well as to extend the full >implementation of the Program for the New American Century (PNAC) -- >i.e., continuation of empire-building, control of the world's oil >supply, and extraction of incredibly huge profits for a narrow >sector of global capital (while bankrupting others) ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 15:12:59 PDT 2006

16371 [lbo-talk] gas prices spiking -- rank: 1000

[expect Bush's approal rating to hit new lows in the coming weeks - there's a strong negative correlation between gas prices and Bush's approval, something not seen with earlier presidents] US gasoline price jumps 10 cts in 1 week-govt Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:36pm ET By Tom Doggett WASHINGTON, April 17 (Reuters) - The U.S. retail price for gasoline shot up 10 cents over the last week to an average $2.78 a gallon, the highest level since early October, and is expected to keep climbing, the government ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 14:42:06 PDT 2006

16372 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Marta Russell wrote: >Did Douglas Massey think about disabled unemployment rate of 70%? I >find that most sociologists completely leave out the impact of >policy on the disabled population. So you're saying that immigrants steal jobs from native born people with disabilities? This is certainly a fresh take on pitting the oppressed against the oppressed. I thought you were a Marxist. Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 14:16:46 PDT 2006

16373 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Marta Russell wrote: >Not in my neighborhood. They are middle age people. By the way, this is a perfect illustration of the perils of doing social research by anecdote. Of course you're more likely to see older people in a hospital - they get sick more often than younger people. People in an emergency room are not a representative sample. Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 14:02:14 PDT 2006

16374 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Marta Russell wrote: >When people start seeing the state spending tens of thousands of >dollars printing every Medi-Cal notice in 21 different languages, >even the most left in the disability community are alarmed by what >this portends. One person I know who has spent her life dedicated >to homeless and legal services said, I get this notice from MediCal >in all these languages and I can't even get my teeth fixed. So >there is certainly a clash. And how would you feel i ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 13:58:26 PDT 2006

16375 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Marta Russell wrote: >Not in my neighborhood. They are middle age people. "On balance in >contributing to the fisc" doesn't really mean anything to me. I see >the consequences of an overburdened system all around here. The >emergency rooms are overrun with non english speaking legals or >illegals. The public health care system is shutting down in LA. > Emergency rooms are closing. What emergency rooms remain open >require 12 hour+ waits to see a doctor. My d ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 11:15:56 PDT 2006

16376 [lbo-talk] Nuke'm 3 -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> Carrol Cox wrote: >> >> >The Security Council is mostly, until China & Russia get some >> >backbone, an arm of the those thugs in the U.S. state department. >> >> You've got almost as exaggerated a view of US power as George Bush. >> The US has little leverage over Russian foreign policy, and Russia >> could easily veto anything in the Security Council it wanted. > >Agreed. ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 10:49:27 PDT 2006

16377 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Marta Russell wrote: >The moral ground I see is that so many who come here wind up getting >on government benefits. Actually they don't. Immigrants are young, and use few government services. They pay taxes - including Social Security taxes, often into phony accounts that are very unlikely ever to draw benefits. Their use of Medicaid is surprisingly small - a few hundred million dollars a year, according to CBO estimates. On balance, they contribute more to the fisc than they take. Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 10:27:09 PDT 2006

16378 [lbo-talk] Nuke'm 3 -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >The Security Council is mostly, until China & Russia get some >backbone, an arm of the those thugs in the U.S. state department. You've got almost as exaggerated a view of US power as George Bush. The US has little leverage over Russian foreign policy, and Russia could easily veto anything in the Security Council it wanted. China's a somewhat different story; it wants to remain on good terms with the US, for now. But we do need them to buy our bonds, so they're not p ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 09:58:52 PDT 2006

16379 [lbo-talk] Iran & the Arabs -- rank: 1000

<http://www.dailystar.com.lb/printable.asp?art_ID=23750&cat_ID=5#> Daily Star (Beiruit) - April 15, 2006 On Iran, Arab heads should come out of the sand By Khalid Hroub The United States is uncertain as to how to react against a defiant Iran on the nuclear issue, especially after Tehran reported success this week in enriching uranium. However, the U.S. is willing to discuss Iraq with the Iranians. Similar confusion about Iran also prevails in the Arab world; but still, the Arab states ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 17 08:34:06 PDT 2006

16380 [lbo-talk] The Christian War on Yuppies -- rank: 1000

ravi wrote: >Huh, what century are we talking about? All malls, shops, 7-11s, "go go" >bars, everything pretty much is open on Sundays in the Garbage State. Not around my ancestral home in Bergen County. Doug

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