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16351 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >This kind of argument (what in the abstract Washington "can and should >do") is one of the political positions that makes building an effective >left difficult. In so far as it is a kind of attitude that is pervasive >among those who (in a friend's formulation) are _for_ but not _of_ the >left it represents the attitude which left activists _must_ overcome if >we are to build a left in the u.s. We could do without the checking of identity papers her ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 16:12:43 PDT 2006

16352 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

B. wrote: >But this thread is pretty much nothing more than >classic false dichotomy, right? Artificially pitting >immigrants against the native disabled. Yup, but it's a very popular false dichotomy. Here's an interesting fact about the anti-immigrant Prop 187 in California <http://migration.ucdavis.edu/MN/more.php?id=492_0_2_0>: "According to exit polls, 64 percent of whites, 57 percent of Asian-Americans, 56 percent of African-Americans, and 31 percent of Latinos voted in ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 15:49:35 PDT 2006

16353 [lbo-talk] URGENT REQUEST (kidding): Henwood -> iPod? -- rank: 1000

ravi wrote: >All, > >I know Herr Propreitor (Henwood) has a podcast (on the web) but I don't >find him in the iTunes Podcast Directory. Is he listed there? Search >didn't turn him up. Any pointers appreciated... I am trying to learn >this iPod stuff... > >Danke, Weird - if you search for "Behind the News" it shows up, but not "Henwood." Wankers. The iTunes URL is <http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=73801817&s=143441 ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 15:06:49 PDT 2006

16354 [lbo-talk] American Prospect Online - Dwight Macdonald -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >I guess we're getting into trivia now, but I'm always delighted to find >someone who shares my immense antipathy to John F. Kennedy and all his >works. That is one of the reasons conspiracy theories on his >assassination are so regressive: they obscure (even deny) his total >commitment to whatever horrors were necessssary or useful for the >prosecution of the Cold War. Worse, they encourage loopy ideas like his assassination was the result of his alleged plan ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 14:44:01 PDT 2006

16355 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net wrote: >Don't illegal immigrants (I really hate that term) pay into the system? They sure do. Massey says that the pay more in taxes than they draw in benefits or services, but Marta doesn't want to believe that. The point of citing the 0.2% figure is that there's no evidence that immigrants are responsible for the problems of US health care. It's a homegrown problem, like most of ours. Doug

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 13:14:37 PDT 2006

16356 [lbo-talk] American Prospect Online - Dwight Macdonald -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: >http://www.prospect.org/web/printfriendly-view.ww?id=11183 > Rodden also writes for Modern Age, a paleo-con academic journal.. In which we read: "He was taken in by the kind of poseurs that he exposed in the past: Eldridge Cleaver, Barbara Garson's Johnson-hating MacBird!, and the vulgarities of Abbie Hoffman and the Yippies." I've never read MacBird, but I know Barbara Garson pretty well, and I'm very fond of her (and like her recent books). Has anyon ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 12:48:10 PDT 2006

16357 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

JBrown72073 at cs.com wrote: >Marta writes: > >>The keener view IMHO is that this overcrowding is desirable to the >>ruling elite because it will run the programs into the ground and it >>will cleanse the population of the most ill i.e., most costly. > >OK, but what does that have to do with immigration? <http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/70xx/doc7030/s1932updat.pdf> Documentation of Citizenship * CBO estimates that requiring enrollees to document their U.S. citizens ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 12:36:54 PDT 2006

16358 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Willy Greenfields wrote: >A Japanese enclave has been developing around East 9th >Street in New York for some years. I thought those were mainly disaffected youth who came to the US for a few years to explore their individualism before heading back to Japan. Are they longer-term than that? Doug

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 09:39:50 PDT 2006

16359 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Michael Hoover wrote: >as a "receiver," u.s. has at times >excluded persons solely on basis of numbers assumed to be upper limit >beyond which neither economy nor society could absorb As Douglas Massey points out in the interview I just posted a link to, the legal quota for Mexican immigrants into the U.S. is 20,000 a year - the same as Nepal and Botswana. That's ludicrous. Doug

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 08:12:24 PDT 2006

16360 [lbo-talk] LA vs NY -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - April 18, 2006 SUPERIOR SMARTS EVEN Bijou Phillips knows New Yorkers are smarter than sun-kissed Los Angelenos. The Manhattan-bred hellcat, who now lives on the Left Coast to pursue acting, tells Stuff magazine what she misses most about her beloved hometown: "The people, the culture, the art, the intelligence, my friends - everything. People who have something to say and have read a book besides 'The Da Vinci Code.' It's horrible. Even the intellectual people in ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 08:06:52 PDT 2006

16361 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >My explanation, informed by the views of Thomas and Znaniecki on immigration >(_The Polish peasant in Europe and America_) and Max Weber (The Protestant >Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism_) on modernity, is that immigrants who >come from "collectivistic societies," such as Eastern Europe and Latin >America, have a harder time adopting to "individualistic societies" such as >the US - and their coping strategy often relies on cultiva ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 08:04:40 PDT 2006

16362 [lbo-talk] Bush more hated than Clinton -- rank: 1000

<http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=156238> Bush Administration agenda: Keying off of the latest ABC News-Washington Pot [sic] poll which showed 47 percent of voters "strongly" disapprove of Bush's job performance while only 20 percent said they "strongly approve," the Washington Post's Charles Babington reported must-readily on Monday that strategists in both parties are saying that Democrats could have a turnout advantage over Republicans "for the fi ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 07:55:47 PDT 2006

16363 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >I think it really varies. Some groups (e.g. Germans) >tended to assimilate quickly and lose their national >identity (cf. Pennsylvania "Dutch" which is a clever >makeover of Deutsch). Other, like Hispanics, tend to >stay in their own cultural communities - even in Now >York. Depends on which "Hispanics" you're talking about. Puerto Ricans, who've been here for generations, generally speak native English, and a lot of them have mov ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 07:18:27 PDT 2006

16364 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >"Although border militarization had little effect on the probability >of Mexicans migrating illegally, it did reduce the likelihood that >they would return to their homeland. America's tougher line roughly >tripled the average cost of getting across the border illegally; thus >Mexicans who had run the gantlet at the border were more likely to >hunker down and stay in the United States. My study has shown that in >the early 1980's, about half of ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 18 06:30:01 PDT 2006

16365 [lbo-talk] Dean Baker on immigration -- rank: 1000

ravi wrote: >Eh wot? Doug, I kid about your Manhattan'ism, but what are you talking >about, man? Surely you have gone past the Steinway building in Astoria!! >;-) They have a full freaking Hindu temple sitting in the middle of the >road, over there! Yeah, and there's probably a Greek joint with a roasting goat head down the street. Doug

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