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16216 [lbo-talk] Re: lbo-talk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 8 -- rank: 1000

On Aug 1, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Jim Straub wrote: > I agree that bit right there is the most dubious of what I'm > throwing out- I'd be more interested in what you think of the > general thrust of that argument (that people should go where and do > what leftists don't do much of yet). Long ago, a gang from Berkeley moved to Detroit to form Labor Notes and TDU. They've done some great work but it's been a long, hard slog, and industry moved from Detroit to elsewhere. Lots of SWP members ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 1 16:02:00 PDT 2006

16217 [lbo-talk] Satire -- rank: 1000

On Aug 1, 2006, at 6:42 PM, tfast wrote: > If anyone else knows of some good written satire on current events > please post some links. The Swift Report <http://swiftreport.blogs.com/>, which is sadly on semi-hiatus because - get this - one of the writers is going to business school. Doug

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16218 [lbo-talk] Dissentoids dissent -- rank: 1000

<http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=664> > Jean Bethke Elshtain Responds > By Jean Bethke Elshtain > SUMMER 2006 > > WHETHER in agreement or demurral, one reads Michael Walzer with > interest and respect. His work is a welcome contrast to the vicious > rhetoric of accusation and denunciation that is so much a part of > our public life. > Isn't that an inviting opening? Elshtain thinks Walzer <http:// www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=663> ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 1 14:47:38 PDT 2006

16219 Re: [lbo-talk] Israel s strategic impasse -- rank: 1000

On Aug 2, 2006, at 4:50 AM, Ira Glazer wrote: > Paul Rogers Oh yeah, he's the guy who kept claiming that Iraq was winning the first Gulf War, wasn't he? Doug

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16220 [lbo-talk] Re: lbo-talk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 8 -- rank: 1000

On Aug 1, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Jim Straub wrote: > Working forward from this, I usually maintain that if people are > making choices about where to put their lives, time and energy, I > encourage: > > -Don't move to NYC Yeah, no working class there! What kind of nonsense is this? This city is profoundly divided by class and race, with a vast low-wage workforce, oodles of "non- participants," and some awful unions. If ever anyplace needed better organization, it's here. Do ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 1 14:07:34 PDT 2006

16221 [lbo-talk] academic labor geeks etc. -- rank: 1000

On Aug 1, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > We don't try hard enough. We don't do the work. Really? I'm not sure of that. I know lots of left intellectuals who've gone to work for unions, as researchers and organizers. They work very hard. I know lots of antiwar organizers in NYC who obsess about the fact that the antiwar movement is too white and upscale, and they try very hard to diversify it. People try. It's not clear that the audience is there. Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 1 13:06:05 PDT 2006

16222 [lbo-talk] Critique of SA NGOs -- rank: 1000

On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:37 AM, James Heartfield wrote: > Vans, Autos, Kombis and the Drivers of Social Movements > > by Ashwin Desai > > Harold Wolpe Memorial Lecture > Centre for Civil Society > International Convention Centre, Durban, Hall 1B > Friday 28 July, 5:45-7pm > This would have been more interesting and effective if Desai had actually cited some examples and named some names. Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 1 11:48:54 PDT 2006

16223 [lbo-talk] two sides of Israeli opinion -- rank: 1000

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283720,00.html 07.30.06 Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents The Yesha Rabbinical Council announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that "according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as 'innocents' of the enemy." All of the discussions on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us in the blood of our soldiers ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 1 11:27:59 PDT 2006

16224 [lbo-talk] academic labor geeks etc. -- rank: 1000

[bounced bec appended text pushed it over the length limit] From: "Jim Straub" <rustbeltjacobin at gmail.com> Date: August 1, 2006 12:29:23 PM EDT To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: SEIU (Doug Henwood) I take no umbrage with the income of professors; indeed I think they should be paid more, and have no illusions that the academy's comforts are monetary in nature. What I find annoying about academic labor geeks is that most have a connection to real flesh and blood wor ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 1 11:24:55 PDT 2006

16225 [lbo-talk] mothers for war -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - August 1, 2006 In Israel, 'Mothers' Have Change of Heart On Hezbollah Fight Ex-Leader's Bellicose Stand Signals Shift in Nation; Ms. Anteby Skips March By GUY CHAZAN KAKHAL, Israel -- In 1997, Zahara Anteby became so sick of Israel's lengthy occupation of Lebanon that she started campaigning full-time to end it. The 18-year military presence finally ended, in 2000, in a wrenching moment for Israel and a major victory for the popular movement Ms. Anteby helped lead. Seve ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 1 09:20:52 PDT 2006

16226 [lbo-talk] a Republican explains the war in Iraq -- rank: 1000

[from The Note] Hastert spokesguy Ron Bonjean reacted to the Democratic missive thusly: "The Democratic leadership continues to demand that American soldiers end their mission and wave the white flag of surrender to the terrorists that we are. fighting in Iraq. In fact, 42 Democrats defied their leadership and stood with House Republicans last month to support both our troops and their mission in Iraq as part of winning the Global War on Terror. The Democratic leadership has failed t ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 1 07:13:09 PDT 2006

16227 [lbo-talk] An Economics Question: Pizza Slices and Subway Fares -- rank: 1000

Jerry Monaco wrote: >Has anyone else noticed that the price of a pizza slice in New York >tracks the price of a single subway fare? Yes! I've noticed the same thing myself. It's hard to explain - they don't have the same inputs by any means, and they're not substitutes for each other. The only thing they have in common is that they're staples of daily life. Doug

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Date:	Sun Apr 30 13:26:22 PDT 2006

16228 [lbo-talk] 300, 000 demonstrators, stretching for 10 blocks, in NYC -- rank: 1000

Jerry Monaco wrote: >As usual, the cops had people penned in at different times and >places and essentially regulated the size of the march through >discouragement into entry into the march. The cops were not as >heavy handed as at some marches but they still turned people away >from entry points and gave people the run around! The strategy of >the cops in NYC is often to limit the size of these marches. Since you're a lawyer...has anyone ever sued over this practice? Are the ...

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Date:	Sun Apr 30 09:12:46 PDT 2006

16229 [lbo-talk] it's inevitable -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >Did not I acknowledged that in my posting? I disagree >with you, however, that drugs - or alcohol - are >violence and social cost free. Cocaine often produces >violent outbursts. Opium derivatives (morphine, >heroine) are addictive, and addiction can have quite >adverse effect on the addict and his/her family, >including violent outbursts (esp. during withdrawal). > Even pot, which indeed is quite benign and soporific, >in some individuals ...

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Date:	Sun Apr 30 08:39:33 PDT 2006

16230 [lbo-talk] 300, 000 demonstrators, stretching for 10 blocks, in NYC -- rank: 1000

Chuck wrote: >Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > >>You're right, Chuck. I was just so happy to see photos of a decent >>turnout -- reading a desperate plea from a UFPJ outreach coordinator >>that ravi posted here made me fear that the crowed might be just a >>couple of tens of thousands -- that I got carried away when composing >>the subject line. I didn't hear any news of this on TV, though. Was >>this covered anywhere? > >The turnout was very respectab ...

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