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16006 [lbo-talk] MySpace, the Gutenberg edition -- rank: 1000

On Aug 24, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Chuck wrote: > MySpace obviously doesn't have anybody on staff who can point out > how badly the magazine industry is doing these days. It's owned by Rupert Murdoch, who does know something about magazines. Doug

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16007 [lbo-talk] Class Divide in Iran (was Once Upon a time) -- rank: 1000

On Aug 24, 2006, at 4:16 PM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > I liked Yoshie's answer to Doug's challenging point about Bush's > working > class support. > > It's not surprising that lots of lower-income voters support Bush. All > conservative parties like the Republicans necessarily have a mass > base or > they wouldn't be major parties. Popular support is necessary for > them to > gain and hold power. > > But it's essential, IMO, to distinguish between the typical n ...

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16008 [lbo-talk] Joschka Fischer joins CFR, Princeton -- rank: 1000

August 24, 2006 Joschka Fischer, Former German Foreign Minister, to be Distinguished Visiting Diplomat at the Council Joschka Fischer, former minister of foreign affairs and vice chancellor of Germany, will join the Council in the position of distinguished visiting diplomat on September 5. Fischer will write and speak on European and transatlantic issues, reflecting on his career, contemporary issues, and challenges ahead. "We are pleased to have someone of Joschka Fischer's stature, ...

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16009 [lbo-talk] MySpace, the Gutenberg edition -- rank: 1000

<http://www.gawker.com/news/myspace/welcome-to-the-postliterate- era-196425.php> Welcome to the Postliterate Era Breaking from AdAge: "Hey MySpace kids: Want to read a magazine? If you answered yes, you may be in luck. MySpace is actively considering whether to launch an ink-on-paper magazine to complement its insanely popular and remarkably valued online property. The editorial mix would likely cover standout MySpace members and their interests, from music to their social scene. ...

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16010 [lbo-talk] response to Stern -- rank: 1000

[this bounced because it incorporated the whole original post and pushed it past the length limit - please don't do that - just quote what's necessary] From: "Jim Straub" <rustbeltjacobin at gmail.com> Date: August 24, 2006 1:36:25 PM EDT To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: Stern: we are Americans and we don't like anybody else's I suppose a response from me is obligatory. Unions are in the business of 'doing deals' with the owners and the enemies. All collective bargai ...

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16011 [lbo-talk] Class Divide in Iran (was Once Upon a time) -- rank: 1000

On Aug 24, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Bush's supporters stand on the opposite side of the class divide to > Ahmadinejad's supporters, Chavez' supporters, Nasrallah's supporters, > and so on. Lots of Bush's supporters are working class; the ones that go to a Bush rally are the ones who'd repeat the party line. So quotes from attendees at a rally don't really cut it as political analysis. And just because working class people believe something doesn't make it good or ...

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16012 [lbo-talk] questions about Iran -- rank: 1000

New York Times - August 24, 2006 Sweating Out the Truth in Iran By MAZIAR BAHARI Tehran, Iran WORKING as a journalist in Iran embodies the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again without getting any results. That's how I felt at the height of the conflict in Lebanon, when I asked officials about Iran's relations with Hezbollah, bearing in mind that posing such questions can be a futile, dangerous and sometimes even lethal exercise. How was Iran helping Hezbollah? Di ...

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16013 [lbo-talk] Class Divide in Iran (was Once Upon a time) -- rank: 1000

On Aug 24, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi quoted: > "We love him. We love Ahmadinejad," says Mahnaz Dargahi, a young woman > in her 20s dressed in full hijab and ankle-length chador, who is > watching a rally in Nir. "He's very popular. He does a lot for the > youth. His focus is on the development of the country and on the poor > people." Her friends nod in agreement, giggle, then pull their scarves > closer to their faces. > > "He is a nice ...

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16014 [lbo-talk] A question for the anti-"conspiracy"-theorists about 9/11 -- rank: 1000

On Aug 24, 2006, at 12:03 PM, ravi wrote: > There is, I believe, at least for our purposes, an easy way out of > this > -- circular shooting squad (had to throw that in to up Doug's counter > ;-)). Alas, I searched for "firing squad." As you know, search engines are very literal-minded. > Assume the best of your friends (on LBO) and eschew the > theorizing about their psyche and personality unless significant > contradictions arise. A good general principle, which ...

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16015 [lbo-talk] Israel Must Win By Gilad Atzmon -- rank: 1000

On Aug 24, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Chris Doss wrote: > It appears repulsive to us non-believers, but given > their religious system it is not whacky at all. It's > completely consistent with the tone of the Old > Testament. A crazy fucking document, that OT. Violent, vengeful, misogynistic - and prime fuel for our own Xtian fundies. This may be an explanation, but it's no excuse. Doug

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16016 [lbo-talk] Stern: we are Americans and we don't like anybody else's system! -- rank: 1000

[Someone forwarded this to me; no endorsement is implied. - Doug] [Note: The following article is reprinted from Issue No. 196 (August 15, 2006) of the ILC International Newsletter. To subscribe to this weekly online newsletter, write to <ilcinfo at earthlink.net.>.] ----- Andy Stern & "Corporate Partnerships": From Immigration Reform to Single-Payer By ALAN BENJAMIN Andy Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), has been spending a lot of time ...

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16017 [lbo-talk] Once Upon a time -- rank: 1000

Yoshie writes: > The rest of the world tend to prefer illiberal democracy, and if you > don't like that, you have to live with dictatorship -- which makes > space for some personal freedoms at the expense of political freedoms > -- that suppresses democracy. Dictatorships like firing squads - do we have to learn to live with them too? Some decades ago, white Southern USers "preferred" segregation - should "we" have adapted to that? The Nazis were popular for a ...

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16018 [lbo-talk] Matt Taibbi on shooting the Dem leadership -- rank: 1000

On Aug 24, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Michael Pollak wrote: >> >> Firing Squad Looms for the Dem Party Oligarchy >> >> >> Finally, the "firing squad in a circle" line has been a DLC >> favorite >> for years. DLC chief Al From has been pimping it at least >> since the >> last presidential race. It's time we officially retired this >> line, >> which is really just a sorry take on the lame old ...

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16019 [lbo-talk] Israel Must Win By Gilad Atzmon -- rank: 1000

On Aug 23, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > MPg has no purpose in life but to spread shit around. By the way, I don't agree with that part. That's only the Bad Michael. Doug

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16020 [lbo-talk] Israel Must Win By Gilad Atzmon -- rank: 1000

On Aug 23, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Goodwin Ginger wrote: > > Only she ("Ginger") never said a damn thing herself but just somehow > dragged the troll mpg into the thread. What was your purpose in this > post, Ginger? MPg has no purpose in life but to spread shit around. I > have never read a rational post from him. Yeah, sorry, it was only the pileup of unread mail that made me approve that too quickly. What was the point of it, "Ginger"? Doug

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