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15856 [lbo-talk] language games -- rank: 1000

[from The Note, which is going on holiday <sniff> until Jan 2] Although it's no secret that Richardson is seriously looking at a presidential run, spokesmen for his campaign called the inference "absolutely false" and issued a statement denying that the Governor had announced his candidacy claiming that "comments from the interview were taken out of context based on a hypothetical question that FOX News posed about the Governor's strengths should he run for President.& ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Dec 8 09:33:37 PST 2006

15857 [lbo-talk] Bush Backs Away From 2 Key Ideas of Panel on Iraq -- rank: 1000

On Dec 8, 2006, at 9:31 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Bush Backs Away From 2 Key Ideas of Panel on Iraq Brit Hume & Co. really played up this conflict on Fox last night (and how about that NY Post cover on the Baker commish? "SURRENDER MONKEYS"!). So I wonder how this is going to work out. I'm guessing that Baker et al speak for the big bourgeoisie and Bush doesn't. So will there be a campaign against him forthcoming? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Dec 8 09:15:09 PST 2006

15858 [lbo-talk] Persuasion: Common or Rare? -- rank: 1000

On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Dwayne Monroe wrote: > To-date, I can think of three opinions I've tossed on > the rubbish pile because of persuasive > counter-arguments: Then you're a rarity! Three's a lot, not a little. But I suspect there are a lot of nonparticipants in these exchanges, lurkers and archive-readers, who don't have firm opinions on the points of dispute and so profit from the back & forth. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Dec 8 09:09:38 PST 2006

15859 [lbo-talk] Another one from Goldner -- rank: 1000

From: Loren Goldner <lrgoldner at yahoo.com> Date: December 8, 2006 10:59:52 AM EST To: dhenwood at panix.com Subject: Another one Dear Doug, The following is an intervention from another list, in response to certain critics who argue that primitive accumulation in Marx was a one-off development of the early modern period and no longer exists. It follows my recent message about imperialism and, I think, deepens it. If you think it's worthwhile, I'd be grateful if you'd post it on your ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Dec 8 08:59:23 PST 2006

15860 [lbo-talk] ISG, PS -- rank: 1000

On Dec 8, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Michael Hoover wrote: > i heard panetta say that the u.s. has a reputation in the middle east > for being *forthright* and *above aboard*, he didn't, however, use > phrase *straight-shooter*... Ha. When you shoot a few billion rounds - what's the bullet count in Iraq? it's in the billions, right? - you don't have to shoot straight. You just shoot a lot. Forthright and above board? What planet do these people live on? Do they really believe this? I'm guess ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Dec 8 08:52:09 PST 2006

15861 [lbo-talk] the US goes further mad with incarceration -- rank: 1000

<http://www.forbes.com/business/commerce/feeds/ap/2006/12/07/ ap3238378.html> Guantanamo Detainees Going to New Prison By MICHAEL MELIA 12.07.06, 10:07 PM ET The U.S. military transferred the first group of detainees on Thursday to a new maximum-security prison at Guantanamo Bay designed to restrict contact among the prisoners and prevent attacks on guards. More than 40 detainees were brought to the $37 million prison perched on a plateau overlooking the Caribbean Sea from another maxim ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 7 21:30:24 PST 2006

15862 [lbo-talk] Chomsky -- rank: 1000

gotta run & do a radio show, but here's the cite on the Chomsky article and its opening grafs: New Left Review I/187, May-June 1991 JOSHUA COHEN AND JOEL ROGERS KNOWLEDGE, MORALITY AND HOPE: THE SOCIAL THOUGHT OF NOAM CHOMSKY In his first published essay on politics, Noam Chomsky announced his conviction that [i]t is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and to expose lies. [1] Acting on that conviction, Chomsky has long supplemented his work in linguistics with writin ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 7 12:47:15 PST 2006

15863 [lbo-talk] Prose Style, was Time to Get Religion -- rank: 1000

On Dec 7, 2006, at 3:37 PM, joanna wrote: > Doug Henwood wrote: > >> According to that piece on Chomsky's political philosophy by I >> can remember who in NLR about 10 years ago, Noam believes that >> we're all hardwired for freedom, and it's only external >> distortions (e.g., a bad state) that inhibit us from realizing >> this inner essence. > > Observe Ivan as he grows up and you will realize that Noam was right. Well, no. Ivan is coming to subject ...

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Date:	Thu Dec 7 12:39:17 PST 2006

15864 [lbo-talk] Prose Style, was Time to Get Religion -- rank: 1000

On Dec 7, 2006, at 2:53 PM, bitch wrote: > Which is to say, Chomsky characterizes Foucault as suggesting that > what he's about is criticizing the content of of the concept of > human nature C offered. But foucault is not. He is denying that > there is a human nature at all. According to that piece on Chomsky's political philosophy by I can remember who in NLR about 10 years ago, Noam believes that we're all hardwired for freedom, and it's only external distortions (e.g., a bad s ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 7 12:10:41 PST 2006

15865 [lbo-talk] Prose Style, was Time to Get Religion -- rank: 1000

On Dec 7, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Seth Ackerman wrote: > Chomsky doesn't claim that ingrained common sense can be fought > through repeated factchecking. His answer isn't necessarily > sufficient, but least he has an answer: He says common sense can > only be changed through mass participation in social movements. > Yeah, but isn't that hard? Sure, but you have to try. Usually > you'll fail, but sometimes you'll succeed. I think that's the > Chomsky prescription in a nutshell. So ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 7 11:39:18 PST 2006

15866 [lbo-talk] Women, Religion, and Secular Leftists (was Rabbi Lerner's address on TV!) -- rank: 1000

On Dec 7, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > On 12/6/06, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: >> Which isn't to say any of this is unimportant > > By now, most women on the Left must have decided it didn't matter > whether or not men on the Left thought any of that was important, > which explains their absence, Several women post regularly to this list, and several more infrequently. They must be flattered to learn of their absence. > whereas women ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 7 10:56:19 PST 2006

15867 [lbo-talk] Prose Style, was Time to Get Religion -- rank: 1000

On Dec 7, 2006, at 12:58 PM, B. wrote: > How do you feel about Jean Baudrillard? He's pretty silly a lot of the time. His early stuff was pretty good, but ever since, he's a jokester. Doug

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Date:	Thu Dec 7 10:49:59 PST 2006

15868 [lbo-talk] Prose Style, was Time to Get Religion -- rank: 1000

On Dec 7, 2006, at 12:17 PM, ravi wrote: > What I do find troublesome is the criticism of say Chomsky on the > grounds that his analysis is superficial, inadequate, incomplete, > useless, etc in comparison to an alternative. In such a case, > especially > in human matters (e.g: politics), I think it is not disingenuous > for me > to claim a non-partisan role and look for knowledge and reasoning > that I > can use to understand the issues and act. It is (I claim) a matt ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 7 10:49:31 PST 2006

15869 [lbo-talk] Mel Gibson, declinist -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - December 7, 2006 "THE things that happened right before their downfall are occurring in our society right now. People think that modern man is so enlightened, but we're susceptible to the same forces" - Mel Gibson telling Jeanne Wolf of Movies.com about the Mayan civilization depicted in his "Apocalypto." [one only had to look a little down the page to discover...] Steer Heaven NEW York might not have the tallest building in the world any more, ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 7 10:36:40 PST 2006

15870 [lbo-talk] Prose Style, was Time to Get Religion -- rank: 1000

On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Tayssir John Gabbour quoted Slavoj Zizek: > I'm a total Enlightment person. I believe in clear > statements and so on. And remember, when he writes in English, he's not writing in his native language.

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Date:	Thu Dec 7 08:44:19 PST 2006