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15736 [lbo-talk] P-9 and meatpacking deunionization (was: The raids against immigrant workers) -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2006, at 10:53 PM, boddi satva wrote: > Look, I understand why, but lefties are doing themselves and everyone > else a disservice trying to persuade themselves that undocumented > workers have a real shot at a decent life in America. Actually David Card cites studies showing that the children of immigrants do very well, often surpassing the native-born in education and income. I'm responding calmly and rationally to your nativist eruptions because I'm in a festive holidy m ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 20 08:49:34 PST 2006

15737 [lbo-talk] Re: Sources of Information/Data -- rank: 1000

[dunno why Ismail's posts can't get though - he's sub'd at this address, and not on moderation - any other Yahoo people having problems?] On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Ismail Lagardien wrote: > Hi everyone > > I am compiling a mini-database about arrests, questioning and other > undemocratic /oppressive measures 2000. I am interested in > incidents where folk were arrested, questioned, beaten etc or > protesting, or speaking out against... as well as incidents like > the ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 20 08:20:44 PST 2006

15738 [lbo-talk] Goldman pays boss $54m -- rank: 1000

WSJ.com - December 20, 2006 Goldman's Blankfein Gets Street's Biggest Paycheck By RANDALL SMITH Goldman Sachs Group Inc. paid its chairman and chief executive, Lloyd Blankfein, about $54 million for 2006, a record for Wall Street bosses who are harvesting their share of bull-market bounty. Mr. Blankfein, who became CEO midway through the year when Henry Paulson became Treasury secretary, saw his pay soar 42% from $38 million for 2005, when he was president and chief operating officer. John M ...

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Date:	Tue Dec 19 19:44:59 PST 2006

15739 [lbo-talk] Paradox -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2006, at 9:50 PM, andie nachgeborenen wrote: > This seems like crackpot realism, especially from a > revolutionary socialist -- unless you retain the > belief, which I doubt, that History (Is-ness)is on Our > Side. There are lots of reason to look deeply into > oughtness Of course I wasn't embracing this as a general principle - just for Iraq. Talking about ideal arrangements separate from the immediate extreme hell on the ground really seems like an indulgence. But a ...

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Date:	Tue Dec 19 19:42:37 PST 2006

15740 [lbo-talk] Paradox -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > In reality? Or in the realm of oughtness? Why do that? Oughtness doesn't have much to do with reality - what's gained by gazing deeply into it? Doug

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Date:	Tue Dec 19 18:16:17 PST 2006

15741 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

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15742 [lbo-talk] Christian Parenti responds -- rank: 1000

[Christian writes...] Doug, Tell your list that: the wise Mage (as usual) is right. I over stated that. Iraq would need start up $ but would then be self financing. I plead guilty to cranking out that piece in one sitting. But as for "production sharing agreements" which is the form that "privatization" of oil usually takes -- the real assets below ground are almost never sold off -- were already in the works under Saddam. I don't think there is any huge hurdle to involvement ...

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Date:	Tue Dec 19 14:54:20 PST 2006

15743 [lbo-talk] P-9 and meatpacking deunionization (was: The raids against immigrant workers) -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote: > Does the union or its activists have control or input into the > investment decisions made by Ford or GM? No, but shouldn't that be part of what they're demanding? It may be pie in the sky, but so is asking to maintain their present wage structure. Doug

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15744 [lbo-talk] P-9 and meatpacking deunionization (was: The raids against immigrant workers) -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote: > Short of taking state power, what else is there other than > defending what one has and organizing? Do suppose the left/ > progressives provide free consulting services to GM/Ford and/or the > UAW tops? SR > So you're essentially saying that short of a revolution, there's nothing that auto workers can do. I guess Michigan can always use a few more convenience store clerks. Otherwise, this is contentless, posturing milit ...

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Date:	Tue Dec 19 13:49:59 PST 2006

15745 [lbo-talk] P-9 and meatpacking deunionization (was: The raids against immigrant workers) -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote: > No denying that Ford and GM are in dire shape (Query whether or in > what form Ford will survive as a company or a brand), nonetheless > who can blame the autoworkers for fighting to save whatever they > can of their standard of living, their healthcare and retirement? > Or, should they just surrender and give it all back. > Who can blame them indeed? I also wouldn't mind being 30 years old again either - who can blame ...

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15746 [lbo-talk] Shakespeare a real Mind-fuck -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:08 PM, andie nachgeborenen wrote: > I know several people who've had house pigs My former WBAI colleague (former because the program director fired him and gave the slot to his own personal physician), health nut Gary Null, lets farm animals roam around his Florida house. No ducks, though; having them go "quack quack" in the background might undermine his message. Doug

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Date:	Tue Dec 19 13:22:27 PST 2006

15747 [lbo-talk] Clamor appeal -- rank: 1000

Someone wrote me offlist to say that the links had been stripped from the Clamor magazine appeal. They're there in the copy I got, but if this happened to you...to give big to Clamor, write <jen at clamormagazine.org>; for Paypal, send $ to <jason at clamormagazine.org>. Doug

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15748 [lbo-talk] Parenti on ISG: we lost, time to leave -- rank: 1000

<http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070101/parenti> posted December 18, 2006 (web only) ISG: Defeat With Honor Christian Parenti Having read the national bestselling paperback The Iraq Study Group Report, I am not so convinced by much of what I am reading about it from writers on the left. Many progressives have interpreted the document's real message as a call for "Stay the Course Lite" or as a not-so-cloaked argument for privatizing Iraq's massive petroleum reserves. (Of cours ...

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Date:	Tue Dec 19 12:21:00 PST 2006

15749 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Emergency Message from Clamor Magazine -- rank: 1000

From: <clamornews at clamormagazine.org> Date: December 19, 2006 10:01:43 AM EST To: dhenwood at panix.com Subject: Emergency Message from Clamor Magazine Reply-To: <bounce-live-964748313-24509706 at ezinedirector.net> First, we'd like to thank everyone for the well-wishes and concern you've shared with us following the announcement that Clamor would be ceasing publication. Today we are writing to ask you to help us protect and sustain Clamor's closest allies: Just Seeds, Left Tur ...

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15750 [lbo-talk] P-9 and meatpacking deunionization (was: The raids against immigrant workers) -- rank: 1000

On Dec 19, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Jim Straub wrote: > However, the narrative around meatpacking and the Austin Hormel > strike has been just as inadequate in understanding what > happened. The labor-left in general, instead of articulating a > strategic understanding of the things that were happening in many > of these industries that could be applied to a successful > rebuilding strategy, Something similar's going on in auto now. You hear Labor Notes people complain about the la ...

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