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14956 [lbo-talk] what global warming? -- rank: 1000

<http://pewresearch.org/reports/?ReportID=34> Pew Research Center for the People & the Press Report The Heat Over Global Warming Americans generally agree that temperatures are climbing but there is no consensus about what, if anything, to do about it. July 12, 2006 Americans generally agree that the earth is getting warmer, but there is less consensus about the cause of global warming or what should be done about it. Roughly four-in-ten (41%) believe human activity such as burning ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 13 19:51:17 PDT 2006

14957 [lbo-talk] What is Israel's Objective? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:43 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > I have > no idea what Israel wants, probably nothing, just punishing Hamas and > Hezbollah from different angle. The loons at the Ayn Rand Institute write: > Dear Editor: > > What will it take for Israel to go to war? How many more Israelis > will have to be murdered, kidnapped, or maimed? > > Israel says the killing and kidnapping of Israelis by Islamic > terror groups Hezbollah and Hamas are acts of war. But is Is ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 13 19:46:49 PDT 2006

14958 [lbo-talk] the state -- rank: 1000

On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Eric Beck wrote: > For the statist, things like wage distribution, ownership, > industrial progress, and democratic participation seem to be most > valued. The Zapatistas want to create a space in which none of > these standard measurments are applicable. To my mind, this space > they are producing is, or at least can be, much more effective at > fighting off the commodity form and capital's international > division of labor. Well count me a stat ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 13 19:43:46 PDT 2006

14959 [lbo-talk] lobiquette and lebanon -- rank: 1000

On Jul 13, 2006, at 1:24 PM, ravi wrote: > Ok, so how come very little talk of Israel's latest act of terrorism? I found myself almost shocked speechless by it - it's so extreme, even by Israeli standards, that I just don't know what to say. It sure looks like they were awaiting some pretext to go completely mad, but extending it into Lebanon too is breathtaking. And, by the way, what chutzpah it takes for Americans to talk about boycotting or divesting from Israel. Israel would be lost w ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 13 19:38:16 PDT 2006

14960 [lbo-talk] A tale of two cities -- rank: 1000

On Jul 13, 2006, at 1:56 PM, Sujeet Bhatt wrote: > Mumbai bombings 7/11/2006: > Posts on on LBO talk on first three days (7/11 to 7/13): 3 > Number of posters: 1 > Death toll: at least 200 > > Thought this was an interesting statistic. Well, tell us what you think about the bombings. Presumably you have a perspective that we don't. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jul 13 19:30:39 PDT 2006

14961 [lbo-talk] Democracy activists accuse Putin of repression -- rank: 1000

On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:20 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > Do you have an agenda, or are you just an > idiot? That violates lbo-talk discursive standards. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jul 13 10:08:03 PDT 2006

14962 [lbo-talk] Re: anti-Americanism and anti-imperialism (was Re: Yoshie: "dialogue" takes listening on your part, too) -- rank: 1000

On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Angelus Novus wrote: > Anti-Americanism is not even necessarily a "leftist" > anti-imperialist phenomenon. Someone high up at the Financial Times once explained that paper's attitude towards the US as a joint product of leftish anti- Americanism and Brit upper-class snobbery about Americans. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jul 13 09:23:17 PDT 2006

14963 [lbo-talk] Thomas Ferguson's Golden Rule: criticism? compliments? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:30 AM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > It doesn't seem to me that Doug's specific example (Hilary Clinton > and health care) or his general criticism (contributors follow > electoral trends) point to flaws in Ferguson's model. As I remember Ferg's argument, the contribs *lead* the process, and electoral trends follow. Were that true, that would have been visible, say, before the 1994 Rep sweep, but it wasn't. The contribs followed the electoral trend. Ditto post-2000, wi ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 13 07:59:05 PDT 2006

14964 [lbo-talk] Verso developments -- rank: 1000

On Jul 12, 2006, at 9:37 PM, mike larkin wrote: > Is it just my experience, or do leftist organizations > treat their staff far more horribly than corporations do? I love the stuff that Verso's published, and I'm very fond of many of the people who've worked there, but it'd never make anyone's list of best places to work. Doug

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Date:	Wed Jul 12 18:48:14 PDT 2006

14965 [lbo-talk] Verso developments -- rank: 1000

Strange goings-on at Verso. Though several fine people have tried to carry on in recent years, the house has been a bit wobbly ever since they fired Colin Robinson in the fall of 2001. (Disclosure alert: Colin's a good friend of mine, and he took a gamble on me when he asked me to do Wall Street for them when I was even more obscure than I am now.) In recent weeks, the entire New York office has resigned, and a new crowd is moving in. They've hired a new US editor, described as follows by ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 12 16:49:47 PDT 2006

14966 [lbo-talk] On Anti-Americanism and Ant -- rank: 1000

On Jul 12, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote: > But are we dealing with several organisms or one? Do the Europeans > or the Japanese have the ability to actively oppose an imperialist > action? Can they - at the level of the state - actively work > against it - as opposed to grumble under their breath? I think the > ruling classes (or elites or leaderships) of the US, EU, Japan etc > are so integrated economically, politically and militarily that > imperialism sho ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 12 15:59:23 PDT 2006

14967 [lbo-talk] On Anti-Americanism and Ant -- rank: 1000

On Jul 12, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote: > Anti- Americanism is simply a rhetorical expression of right wing > origin to describe opposition to the imperialist project of the day. Not entirely - it masks the complicity, active or passive, of the junior partners in the enterprise. This makes for a nice free rider problem, where Euros (and Canadians, and Japanese) get to complain about all those awful Americans, while enjoying the fruits of imperialism themselves. Witness ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 12 15:28:56 PDT 2006

14968 [lbo-talk] the state -- rank: 1000

On Jul 12, 2006, at 5:34 PM, JBrown72073 at cs.com wrote: > And how do you propose to dissolve those boundaries--with the > bourgeoisie in > control of the state apparatus and armed to the teeth? Flowers in > the guns? > They don't take kindly to even small suggestions for > redistribution, you know. This is what's really hard. How can you have an effective political movement that doesn't ossify into something authoritarian? How can you reconcile a decentralized, democratic ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 12 14:59:48 PDT 2006

14969 [lbo-talk] Thomas Ferguson's Golden Rule: criticism? compliments? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 12, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Michael Hoover wrote: > thesis shouldn't be disagreeable to most lbo-sters, elite abiliity to > dominate policy outcomes through "control" of/influence over the > electoral process... Quoting from the NYT article I posted this morning on health industry contribs to Hillary: > While some people in the health care industry are still wary of > Senator Clinton, many say they see her as the likely next > Democratic presidential nominee and are ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 12 14:14:40 PDT 2006

14970 [lbo-talk] Yoshie: "dialogue" takes listening on your part, too -- rank: 1000

On Jul 12, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > Yoshie made it clear years ago that she read the list from the > archives Yup. She was on "nomail," so it was very often a one-way communication. > (but did she click on ads? :) One can only hope....

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Date:	Wed Jul 12 13:57:52 PDT 2006