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14881 [lbo-talk] stupidest quote of the week from an American politician? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 20, 2006, at 3:58 PM, George Scialabba wrote: > Very eloquent, Jerry, and largely true. But I'm not sure I agree > with you about this: "Pointing to elections in order to show how > people are hoodwinked is almost meaningless." Why? I can understand > being too disgusted, discouraged, or depressed to vote at all. But > to vote Republican seems to me, for anyone making less than $100 > thousand a year, foolish, and for anyone making more, selfish. I > just ca ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 20 16:53:40 PDT 2006

14882 [lbo-talk] Lamont Leads Lieberman 51-47 -- rank: 1000

On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:33 PM, ravi wrote: > If Lamont gets the nod, what will eventually happen in the 3-way? Will > Lieberman's current advantage hold? As it said several grafs into the story: > Lieberman has said he will run as a third-party > candidate in November should he lose the Democratic > primary. > > The poll shows him leading a three way race with the > support of 51 percent of likely voters, compared to 27 > percent for Lamont and 9 percent for Republican ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 20 16:41:03 PDT 2006

14883 [lbo-talk] Hillary's agenda -- rank: 1000

<http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=156238&page=3> Preview to DLC in Denver: Sen. Clinton walked purposefully into a ballroom at the Hyatt Regency Hotel on Wednesday to unveil the first component of her American Dream Initiative. Consistent with her strategy of uniting all the non- Kossack strands of the Democratic Party, Sen. Clinton began by ticking off the various Democratic think tanks the Center for American Progress, the Progressive Policy Institute, the New D ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 20 08:44:09 PDT 2006

14884 [lbo-talk] advances in triangulation -- rank: 1000

[The Note notes...] Bill Clinton triangulates within his own family by announcing he is going to campaign for Joe Lieberman.

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14885 [lbo-talk] Re: Thomas Ferguson's Golden Rule: criticism? compliments? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Michael Hoover wrote: > as for _right turn_, what ferguson and rogers were correct about at > the time the book appeared in the mid-80s was that there was no - and > i would maintain there is still no - basis for a conservative voting > bloc majority, they showed that general public opinion ran contrary - > often quite strongly - to just about every reagan agenda item... So why was the guy re-elected by a big margin, why'd he leave office with a 63% a ...

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14886 [lbo-talk] Re: Thomas Ferguson's Golden Rule: criticism? compliments? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Michael Hoover wrote: > golly gee willickers, the investment theory of politics is the product > of a paranoid mind... There are affinities - it assumes a level of control that's greater than exists in the actual world. Doug

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14887 how we could win [was Re: [lbo-talk] how Hillary could -- rank: 1000

On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:46 AM, Tahir Wood wrote: > "how we could win [was Re: [lbo-talk] how Hillary could win]" > Ho hum ... how to make the Democratic Party electable ... Why don't > you > guys look at Labour's three consecutive terms in office and see how > they > did it? If a Blair is what you want, that is. The U.S. pop is mostly to the right of social democracy - you think they're ready for autonomism? Doug

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14888 how we could win [was Re: [lbo-talk] how Hillary could win] -- rank: 1000

On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:58 AM, Tahir Wood wrote: > BTW on this sort of topic: Notice how Bush is being accused of > becoming > Kerry, after having defeated him, in just the same way that Blair was > accused of becoming Thatcher after having defeated the Tories. It's > all > so very ... so very ... fascinating, this race to the middle. Yeah, but in the case of Bush, it's the loony right that thinks he isn't rabidly right-wing enough. I'm not sure people outside the US fully appr ...

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Date:	Thu Jul 20 08:12:24 PDT 2006

14889 [lbo-talk] SEIU joins lbo-talk & Purple FAQ -- rank: 1000

On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > On 7/19/06, Jim Straub <rustbeltjacobin at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I work for SEIU, as a turf organizer among hospital workers in >> Las Vegas. While I'm 26 and a fairly party-line purple militant, >> I believe you'll find I--- like most actual organizers, staff, and >> officers of SEIU--- defy the stereotypes about us. My mom was a >> nurse, and I've been both a janitor and nursi ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 19 14:09:41 PDT 2006

14890 [lbo-talk] US support for Israel: more than a third see the Second Coming of JC -- rank: 1000

<http://pewresearch.org/obdeck/?ObDeckID=39> The U.S. Public's Pro-Israel History In Mid-East Conflicts, Americans Consistently Side with Israel by Jodie T. Allen and Alec Tyson Pew Research Center July 19, 2006 A substantial plurality of the American public has been steadfast in its support for Israel as the intensity of armed conflict in the Middle East has waxed and waned through the years. While Americans have on occasion voiced criticisms of specific tactics and operations underta ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 19 14:04:06 PDT 2006

14891 [lbo-talk] Fwd: targetting milk and medicine -- rank: 1000

Latest targets of air blitz: milk and medicine By Lysandra Ohrstrom Daily Star staff Wednesday, July 19, 2006 BEIRUT: Israel switched gears in its military campaign against Lebanon Monday and Tuesday, launching a series of debilitating air strikes against privately owned factories throughout the country and dealing a devastating blow to an economy already paralyzed by a week of hits on residential areas and crucial infrastructure. The production facilities of at least five companies in key ...

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Date:	Wed Jul 19 13:53:00 PDT 2006

14892 how we could win [was Re: [lbo-talk] how Hillary could win] -- rank: 1000

On Jul 19, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > I think leftists that argue this perspective misunderstand the purpose > for which the DP exists. In your agentless world, who set things up this way in the first place, and who assures that it continues to be true? Why is it impossible that more "progressive" forces couldn't change the Dem party from within? It would certainly be an uphill struggle, but I'm curious about how you see the mechanisms that make this so. Doug

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Date:	Wed Jul 19 13:51:25 PDT 2006

14893 how we could win [was Re: [lbo-talk] how Hillary could win] -- rank: 1000

On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > Plus there's the perceived 'problem' of giving a handout to those > who can already afford preschool. Is it really that hard to > administer a needs test for things like this? It's a law of politics that targeted, means-tested programs suck. The only way to have good public programs with broad support is to have them be universal. E.g., Social Security, or Scandinavian social democracy. Doug

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14894 how we could win [was Re: [lbo-talk] how Hillary could win] -- rank: 1000

On Jul 19, 2006, at 1:37 PM, George Scialabba wrote: > Well, not just *any* laundry list. Suppose they campaigned really > hard for universal single-payer health care, That has lots of potential. > retention and extension of the estate tax, Apparent loser politically. > increased capital gains tax, Neutral to loser. > 50 percent reduction of the defense budget, Probably a big loser. > stiff gasoline tax, Political suicide. > large research budget for alternative fuels, Nice, ...

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14895 [lbo-talk] Walzer (dialectically) explains why Israel's attacks are just -- rank: 1000

The New Republic - July 31, 2006 HOW AGGRESSIVE SHOULD ISRAEL BE? War Fair by Michael Walzer Israel is now at war with an enemy whose hostility is extreme, explicit, unrestrained, and driven by an ideology of religious hatred. But this is an enemy that does not field an army; that has no institutional structure and no visible chain of command; that does not recognize the legal and moral principle of noncombatant immunity; and that does not, indeed, acknowledge any rules of engagement. How ...

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