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14836 [lbo-talk] thumpers lobby for Israel -- rank: 1000

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5193092.stm> Evangelical Christians plead for Israel By Richard Allen Greene BBC News, Washington Delegates believe it is vital to campaign on behalf of Israel A week into one of the most severe crises the Middle East has seen in years, Israel is getting an influx of support from an unusual source. More than 3,400 evangelical Christians have arrived in Washington to lobby lawmakers as part of the first annual summit of Christians United for Israel. D ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 10:33:52 PDT 2006

14837 [lbo-talk] Cringely defends print -- rank: 1000

<http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060720.html> They Wrap Fish, Don't They?: Internet News Isn't What It's All Wrapped Up to Be By Robert X. Cringely I have been writing for the World Wide Web since April 1997, which is about as long as anyone on continuous duty can claim. That's 480+ columns, totaling just over 800,000 words (at least one version of the King James Bible, by contrast, has 783,137 words). Every one of those words, by the way (mine, not the Bible's) can be found ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 09:21:32 PDT 2006

14838 [lbo-talk] Moishe Postone - History and Helplessness: MassMobilization and Contemporary Forms of Anticapitalism -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Max B. Sawicky wrote: > I can't understand why people write like this, unless they want to > be sure > nobody will read them. I think they can't write any other way. It's not easy, writing. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 09:06:23 PDT 2006

14839 [lbo-talk] We're all Hezbollah... -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2006, at 11:33 AM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > Which, I understand, boils down to "the popular anger at the US, and > also Israel, is growing." That might be true, but then so what? > What is it > that the disgruntled grunts can due other than burning a US flag in > front of > a US diplomatic mission? Blowing up a destroyer, or flying planes > into high > rise buildings are basically one-time stunts, rather difficult to > replicate. I've never un ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 08:43:43 PDT 2006

14840 [lbo-talk] Doha talks collapse -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Michael Perelman wrote: > Aren't all the WTO talks like a horror movie, where the monster > appears to be dead, > but comes back and strikes again? Except, in the trade talks the > monsters win. Not sure about that exactly, but a rhetoric of crisis has pervaded trade negotiations ever since I started paying attention to them. We're always one step away from the return of Smoot-Hawley. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 08:33:29 PDT 2006

14841 [lbo-talk] We're all Hezbollah... -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2006, at 8:59 AM, www.leninology. blogspot.com wrote: > Those other slogans were there as well, but when we were outside > the embassy it sort of made sense. If we could have got in there, > Hezbollah's flag would have been dangling out of one of the windows. My god, what kind of "victory" would that have been? Are people too lazy or tired to reject the idea of having to choose one or another side when both are wrong? Are you going to sign up for the Ahmadinejad ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 08:17:26 PDT 2006

14842 [lbo-talk] We're all Hezbollah... -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2006, at 7:07 AM, www.leninology. blogspot.com wrote: > No one is idealising Hezbollah. Hezbollah is an Islamist movement > with a strong history of repelling Israeli aggression. Israel is > now destroying Lebanon on the pretext of hunting down Hezbollah. > In this context, it makes perfect sense to say "We are all > Hezbollah" as the Lebanese civilian shortly to perish under Israeli > fire said. This does not entail support for Hezbollah's broader > ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 08:14:09 PDT 2006

14843 [lbo-talk] We're all anti-Israeli now (was "we're all hizbullah now") -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Tahir Wood wrote: > "We're all anti-Israeli now" sounds more to the > point and way more powerful to my ears. And what does it mean? We don't like Israeli state/military policy? Israel should withdraw to the pre-67 borders? We don't like religiously defined states? We all want to push Israel into the sea? Israelis are icky? And since, as an American, I help pay Israel's war bills, should I be anti-American too? If so, how? Should I emigrate? Take ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 08:05:25 PDT 2006

14844 [lbo-talk] Doha talks collapse -- rank: 1000

<http://www.ft.com/cms/s/dfa460d0-1afd-11db- b164-0000779e2340,_i_nbePage=bbb5d774-d441-11da-a357-0000779e2340.html> Doha trade talks collapse over farm subsidies By Alan Beattie, World Trade Editor Published: July 24 2006 11:57 | Last updated: July 24 2006 11:57 Negotiations in the troubled "Doha round "of world trade talks collapsed on Monday after talks between the leading six trading powers in the World Trade Organisation failed in Geneva. The meeting between ministers from ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 08:02:04 PDT 2006

14845 [lbo-talk] Condi's rapturous birth-pangs -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2006, at 10:36 AM, Carl Remick quoted WBY: > The best lack all convictions, while the worst > Are full of passionate intensity. According to Harold Bloom, this passage reflects Yeats's fascist sympathies. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jul 24 07:50:25 PDT 2006

14846 [lbo-talk] Condi's rapturous birth-pangs -- rank: 1000

On Jul 23, 2006, at 8:21 PM, Colin Brace wrote: > I brought up the Condi Rice "birth pang" comment in passing and one of > the commenters pointed out that it's actually Rapture talk, if you can > believe that. Hmm, is Condi a Christer? "Birth pangs" is pure cliche, no? Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 23 17:43:21 PDT 2006

14847 [lbo-talk] Rapture update: 2m due to die -- rank: 1000

So George Scialabba forwarded the Rapture quotes to Danny Postel's list, where Ken Silverstein picked it up. I realize the net has changed everything, but still it's always nice, when forwarding things, to credit sources. The incident inspired me to take a look at the Rapture Ready site. Holy Christ, to coin a phrase. Since when did war and mass death become a Christian value? Yeah, I know the answer to that, but JC himself would not have approved. Doug ---- <http://www.rr-bb.com/showth ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 23 14:18:43 PDT 2006

14848 [lbo-talk] intro to lerner on divestment -- rank: 1000

On Jul 23, 2006, at 4:46 PM, Joel Schalit quoted Michael Lerner: > the 100,000 members and supporters of the Tikkun Community What's the circ of the magazine? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jul 23 14:09:33 PDT 2006

14849 [lbo-talk] Debka: US disappointed in Israeli military -- rank: 1000

[I know this has come up before but I don't remember the answer - who's Debka exactly and are they at all reliable?] <http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1188> Washington Expected an IDF Grand Slam to Dispose of Hizballah DEBKAfile Special Report July 23, 2006, 6:22 PM (GMT+02:00) US officials are not yet saying so out loud, but in private and "on condition of anonymity," White House circles are signaling disappointment. It arises from the expectation that the Israeli Defense ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 23 12:25:39 PDT 2006

14850 [lbo-talk] Harpers on the "Happocalypse" -- rank: 1000

The Harper's version is attributed to Ken Silverstein, an excellent journalist whom I don't think of as doing things like this... On Jul 23, 2006, at 2:47 PM, B. wrote: > Just after midnight on July 18 (12:52 AM CST) I posted > an excerpt to LBO-Talk from the "End Times" chat board > of happily apocalyptic Xtians. > > Harpers Magazine posted this later that same day: > > http://harpers.org/rapture-ready-20060718001.html > > Looks familiar to me! > > I ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 23 12:09:35 PDT 2006