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14551 [lbo-talk] Hillary triangulates -- rank: 1000

[from The Note] Anti-amendment Democrats like Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) may also team with Sen. Bennett to push alternative legislation that would attempt to ban some forms of flag desecration (in a way that the Supreme Court finds permissible) without amending the Constitution, thus giving potential cover to some lawmakers who have supported the amendment in the past, but are having second thoughts now.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 26 07:47:02 PDT 2006

14552 [lbo-talk] The very worst custodians of empire -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:15 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > On 6/26/06, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: >> On Jun 26, 2006, at 2:01 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >> >> > Why do we pretend to care about what has, is, or will happen to >> > Iraqis, Iranians, North Koreans, Cubans, and others? If we really >> > did, we wouldn't live like this. >> >> How should we live then? > > First of all, begin with admitting to the basic t ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 26 07:31:22 PDT 2006

14553 [lbo-talk] dude hates The Note -- rank: 1000

<http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.boehlert.html> Shill Wind All of Washington's political reporters read ABC's The Note. That's why they keep missing the story. By Eric Boehlert -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: n.gif Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: not available URL: <../attachments/20060626/6066a2e7/attachment.gif> -------------- next part -------------- In the spring of 2005, a story came along that was so ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 26 07:12:03 PDT 2006

14554 [lbo-talk] CIA and Feminism (was Alex Cockburn going the Hitchensway?) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >> Huh? I thought it was going to be a disaster from before it started. > > For a long time after the beginning of the invasion, you kept pointing > to polls of Iraqis to argue that a premature US withdrawal will be a > disaster, too, and undesired by a majority of Iraqis, so we couldn't > and shouldn't call for that. For the first few months after the invasion, all evidence was that Iraqis didn't want an immediate pullou ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 26 06:47:56 PDT 2006

14555 [lbo-talk] The very worst custodians of empire -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2006, at 2:01 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Why do we pretend to care about what has, is, or will happen to > Iraqis, Iranians, North Koreans, Cubans, and others? If we really > did, we wouldn't live like this. How should we live then? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 26 06:37:29 PDT 2006

14556 [lbo-talk] Vidal on Kissinger -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:09 PM, ravi wrote: > What's wrong with Mark Crispin Miller? I have heard him on the radio a > few times and he seems a pretty tolerable and level-headed chap. As I've said a bunch of times before, I think all that media concentration stuff is lazy and shallow. And then there's this abomination: <http://shout.lbo-talk.org/lbo/ RadioArchive/2006/MCM-Queen.mp3>. Which aside from being an egregiously bad piece of music, reveals the sentimentality behind his crit ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jun 26 06:33:32 PDT 2006

14557 [lbo-talk] The Beef With Aronowitz -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 5:18 PM, Auguste Blanqui wrote: > Doug still has not yet answered the question about his Stanley Beef. It started with his jobless future (or was it end of work?) stuff, which was incredibly awful <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/ Jobless_future.html>. Then on a panel at a Socialist Scholars Conference - which was originally supposed to be a debate between us, but on which either SA or the organizers chickened out - I criticized it, and all he would say was & ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 25 18:59:53 PDT 2006

14558 [lbo-talk] Re: request for WSJ article -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Tim Francis-Wright wrote: > But the WSJ does not really depend on a small cadre of big cheeses, > but on its 2 million or so subscribers, a lot of whom are using it > to try to beat the stock market. And learning about corporate > malfeasance is very, very important to them. I'm not so sure of that. Most stockholders just want to go along for the ride, and don't care much about malfeasance - at least until after the fact. The late 1990s were a perfect ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 25 18:38:52 PDT 2006

14559 [lbo-talk] CIA and Feminism (was Alex Cockburn going the Hitchensway?) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 7:18 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > For a long time after the beginning of the invasion of Iraq, even most > liberals and many leftists -- including yourself -- didn't think that > the Iraq War was a disaster, at least not a disaster that should > compel a swift end to it. Now you, as well as many on the broad left, > think it's a disaster, but what are you gonna do about it? Huh? I thought it was going to be a disaster from before it started. What am I going t ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 25 18:37:37 PDT 2006

14560 [lbo-talk] The Beef With Aronowitz -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Bryan Atinsky wrote: > Here is the rest of the letter he wrote (with another author): > > http://www.advocatesforisrael.org/GovernorResponse.html > > Green Gubernatorial Candidates Respond to Resolution > by Stanley Aronowitz and Markay Rogers Holy shit, I just read the communications from Lorna Salzman on that site. I had Salzman on the radio back in 1996, when she was one of like three or four Green Party nominees running for president. I thoug ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 25 14:09:28 PDT 2006

14561 [lbo-talk] The very worst custodians of empire -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Colin Brace wrote: > On 6/25/06, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote: > >> Placing the emphasis on Bush is simply another way of pimping for the >> Democratic Party and delaying the emergence of any real left in >> the u.s. > > I have no interest in "pimping" for the Dems, but, sorry, I don't buy > this argument. If Gore had prevailed in 2000, would he have invaded > Iraq? I don't think so. Carrol can't even make ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 25 12:59:55 PDT 2006

14562 [lbo-talk] The very worst custodians of empire -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Marvin Gandall wrote: > May I use you as a reference if I apply for a job with the > Democrats? A > Professor Emeritus of English Literature with your impressive grasp of > contemporary politics and revolutionary theory and practice would > carry some > weight both in my obtaining a Green Card and persuading Pelosi, > Reid and > Company of my abilities to help "delay the emergence of a real left > in the US." If only that were som ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 25 12:55:55 PDT 2006

14563 [lbo-talk] The Beef With Aronowitz -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Bryan Atinsky wrote: > I can't speak for Doug's beef with Aronowitz, but one of mine is > that he wrote a letter in critique of the US Green Party's call > for divestment from Israel. Stanley's probably afraid of the rage that supporting divestment would provoke from his companion (I don't think they're married), Ellen Willis, who is a fearsome zionist. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 25 11:46:12 PDT 2006

14564 [lbo-talk] request for WSJ article -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Jerry Monaco wrote: > Don't you think "the people who matter" (the ruling class in general > and their elite servants, major investors, finance capital, etc) need > something like the WSJ in order to keep "balance" (maintain the status > quo, get feedback that is not simply NYT propaganda or corporate > publicity? They need it, but hey, capitalism isn't a charity. If the profits aren't good enough, they'll just have to go without. ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 25 11:43:57 PDT 2006

14565 [lbo-talk] request for WSJ article -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Marta Russell wrote: > Sometimes the WSJ totally surprises me in their reporting. It's amazing, isn't it? Several times a week the front page contains a great piece that a left periodical should have done. But their reporters have a lot of resources to work with - they're allowed a long time to work on those pieces, and you get lots of access when you say you're calling from the WSJ. And besides, the left press has an insatiable quota of column inches devoted ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jun 25 10:42:25 PDT 2006