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1321 [lbo-talk] non-violence is the most powerful weapon we have -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 6:34 AM, Lenin's Tomb wrote: > Damage to property isn't 'violence'. I think the main problem with these kids is that they're elitist. They don't participate in democratic processes, they don't make proposals at the general assembly, and they impose their tactics on the march. And what they're doing is tactically stupid. And they look like idiots in their black hoodies, with their little black flags and their little cans of spray paint. > > Look, this chap is basic ...

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1322 [lbo-talk] Proyect on black bloc -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:32 AM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > *yawn* Tell us, any Occupy events going on down your way? Doug

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1323 [lbo-talk] Proyect on black bloc -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 5:31 AM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > Proyect seems unwilling to understand what a bloc is. It isn't an > existing organization. It is an ad hoc group of people who decide to > perform some sort of action within a protest. One of the reason they > had feeder marches and convergences was so that this "black bloc" > could lead the anti-capitalist protest. ... > The funny thing is, I reminded him of this on my facebook page 7 weeks > ago and there was ...

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1324 [lbo-talk] Money is money -- rank: 1000

On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:52 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > Right, so all I'm saying is that credit unions would never have this speculative side because they're not allowed to have that. Give 'em more money than they know what to do with and they'll figure out a way. Betcha.

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1325 [lbo-talk] win in Ohio! -- rank: 1000

Yay! POLITICO Breaking News ------------------------------------------------- In a victory for unions and Democrats, Ohio has voted to restore collective bargaining rights for public employees. Issue 2, a measure to sustain Republican Gov. John Kasich's signature achievement in office curbing the power of organized labor, was rejected by a vote of 62 percent to 37 percent, with 19 percent of precincts reporting, according to the Associated Press.

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1326 [lbo-talk] Money is money -- rank: 1000

On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:33 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > Right, but didn't B of A just move a whole lot of speculative accounts over to their FDIC guaranteed banking sector? Didn't finish that last thought. So, if you take stable retail deposits away from the biggies (which I doubt will happen in meaningful numbers), they'll be more reliant on volatile wholesale funding, increasing systemic risk. And if you people think they're solving the problem by moving their money, there's less politic ...

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1327 [lbo-talk] Money is money -- rank: 1000

On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:33 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > Right, but didn't B of A just move a whole lot of speculative accounts over to their FDIC guaranteed banking sector? This is exactly the problem. Half-serious banking regulation would require "ring-fencing," as the Brits say, the speculative stuff and leaving the deposit-funded bread and butter banking, like commercial & industrial and routine consumer loans separate. The latter would be FDIC guaranteed. The former, they ...

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1328 [lbo-talk] Money is money -- rank: 1000

On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:30 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > 1) If the problem is political, there is some political consciousness changing as a result of people deciding to move the money to a place where they imagine there's more local control. But one of my points is exactly the opposite: the small banks and credit unions already have more money than they know what to do with, and will put thee new influx into Treasuries and GNMAs. > That local control might be an illusion, but the fact o ...

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1329 [lbo-talk] Question and answer (was: ISO) -- rank: 1000

On Nov 7, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > I never asked students a question without first expressing my view, and I > never accepted questions from students without them first giving their view > on the matter. Aside from the matter of bad faith, always a possibility, > questions are inherently ambiguous. Journalists ask questions all the time, you know. It's part of our job.

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1330 [lbo-talk] Bay Area National Anarchism - i.e. Fascists with Anarchist Appearance -- rank: 1000

On Nov 7, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Mmm. But citing the Southern Poverty Law Center as a > source -- as Roberts did -- at the very least suggests > deep naivete. Yeah, I almost said that, but I was rushing against a deadline. And now I have to cook dinner with a 5-year-old and a guest 3-year-old buzzing around. So, later!

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1331 [lbo-talk] ISO? -- rank: 1000

On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Adam Proctor wrote: > That's precisely it. Determinate negation. The ol Aufhebung strikes again. > > Sent from my iPhone Poetry.

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1332 [lbo-talk] Bay Area National Anarchism - i.e. Fascists with Anarchist Appearance -- rank: 1000

On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > He writes as I have known > police agents to speak in the past. This is the third time you've said something like this on this list. It's odious. Doug

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1333 [lbo-talk] ISO? -- rank: 1000

On Nov 7, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Adam Proctor wrote: > The real question is why so many folks on the left are solely engaged in the navel gazing of epoch's past? This "new! new! new!" impulse is a real evergreen. Yeah, there's some new stuff, and there's some old stuff. The old have something to learn from the young, and the young from the old. This impulse to wash away "all the collected shit of history" is silly. Doug

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Date:	Mon Nov 7 10:48:11 PST 2011

1334 [lbo-talk] violence -- rank: 1000

On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:32 PM, SA wrote: > I forget - who was for "policing the movement"? You know. Cops ask questions. So asking questions is a form of policing. Doug

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1335 [lbo-talk] On vandalism and violence -- rank: 1000

On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > And exceptionally easy to psychoanalyze. True. People wear their symptoms. I'm not immune. Doug

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