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1306 [lbo-talk] black bloc theory: derived from Weathermen -- rank: 1000

http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/black-bloc-inspired-by-weathermen/ >From The Black Bloc Papers An Anthology of Primary Texts >From The North American Anarchist Black Bloc 1988-2005 The Battle of Seattle Through The Anti-War Movement Edited and compiled by David Van Deusen and Xaviar Massot of The Green Mountain Anarchist Collective The Black Bloc can trace its historical roots all the way back to when- and wherever people comprising an oppressed class or group militantly rose ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Nov 11 11:11:29 PST 2011

1307 [lbo-talk] non-violence is the most powerful weapon we have -- rank: 1000

On Nov 11, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Historically, non-violence leads to fairly heavy casualties (including > deaths) among the protesters. You have to keep at it with huge numbers until > the cops/army get sick to their stomach at killing people or beating them up. Aren't you offering advice from afar, which is something you usually mount the pulpit to denounce? And what is the relevance of this comment? No one, as far as I can tell, is advocating nonviolence always. This d ...

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Date:	Fri Nov 11 06:53:31 PST 2011

1308 [lbo-talk] Penn State -- rank: 1000

On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:08 PM, // ravi wrote: > On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Shane Mage wrote: >> On Nov 10, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: >> >>> There's also the fact that the kids were part of a foundation Sandusky ran for "troubled young boys." >> >> Including, perhaps, a few whose troubles involved lack of sexual companionship? >> > > Shane, > > are you pretty much arguing that the 11-12 year olds had consensual sex wi ...

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Date:	Fri Nov 11 04:39:39 PST 2011

1309 [lbo-talk] BHO punts Keystone -- rank: 1000

POLITICO Breaking News ------------------------------------------------- The State Department has confirmed that a decision on the proposed Keystone XL pipeline will be postponed so that it can "undertake an in-depth assessment of potential alternative routes in Nebraska." In a statement, the department said it is "reasonable to expect" that the extended review process "could be completed as early as the first quarter of 2013" - pushing off a contentious issue for P ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 10 12:53:45 PST 2011

1310 [lbo-talk] (BN) Sweden Prime Minister Proving Tough Love of Banks a Model for Debt Crisis -- rank: 1000

On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > RE: "becoming the longest serving conservative premier" > > [WS:] I cannot help but notice how far to the right this country is. > Our liberal Democrats are to the right of Sweden's conservatives. > Depressing. E.g.: >> A good society does not have huge differences, Reinfeldt said. If you build trust among people, and I think you need that, then they shouldn t get far apart from each other. It's hard to imagine just ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 10 06:18:01 PST 2011

1311 [lbo-talk] (BN) Sweden Prime Minister Proving Tough Love of Banks a Model for Debt Crisis -- rank: 1000

Sweden s Reinfeldt Proving Tough Love of Banks a World Model Nov. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Sweden s bank rescue model has protected taxpayers, turned a profit and left the Nordic country less indebted than when the financial crisis started in 2007. It s the opposite of what s happening in the U.K., where the government s debt burden has doubled in the past four years and taxpayers are still footing the bill to bail out banks. In 2006, when I became prime minister, the U.K. and Sweden had the same ratio ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 10 05:45:28 PST 2011

1312 [lbo-talk] have you acquired your Xmas poop statue yet? -- rank: 1000

http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/you-hear-about-those-catalonian-doody-statutettes You Hear About Those Catalonian Doody Statutettes? By Alex Balk | November 9, 2011 "Statuettes of well-known people defecating are a Christmas tradition in Catalonia, dating back to the 18th century." Why yes, there is a photo! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/christmas/8879190/Caganers-figurines-of-famous-people-defecating-in-Catalan-Christmas-nativity-scenes.html

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Date:	Wed Nov 9 18:51:11 PST 2011

1313 [lbo-talk] internal threats -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Mike Beggs quoted "@destructuremal: > communist invariants put the two > goals at risk, publicly shaming Reluctants What a preposterous taxonomy. Doug

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Date:	Wed Nov 9 16:54:37 PST 2011

1314 [lbo-talk] internal threats -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 1:39 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:19 PM, "Doug Henwood" > <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > > In the case of the Oakland general strike, there's a pretty obvious > logic behind the window smashing. The general strike was fairly openly > intended to be coercive, that is, to involve forcing businesses to close > to allow employees to take part. Oakland was covered in po ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 9 10:50:28 PST 2011

1315 [lbo-talk] internal threats -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 12:55 PM, SA wrote: > "Justify one's actions" = "come up with a reason for them." Yes, people should have a reason for their actions. Otherwise they're irrational. I get some shit when I say it's about feelings, but the more I hear, the more I think it is. Doug

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Date:	Wed Nov 9 10:11:50 PST 2011

1316 [lbo-talk] BB: fuck shit up, then leave -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > What do you find nonsensical about it? Setting fires in a city with lots of people around because of something you once heard is reckless and stupid.

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Date:	Wed Nov 9 09:37:48 PST 2011

1317 [lbo-talk] BB: fuck shit up, then leave -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > > Then the group of Black Bloc demonstrators set fires. Their exact >> motivation for doing so wasn't clear. When Occupy medic Douglas Connor >> arrived shortly after 1 a.m. and asked what the fire was for, he got a >> matter-of-fact response from one of the protesters standing guard. "Fires >> help dissipate tear gas," ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 9 09:30:18 PST 2011

1318 [lbo-talk] internal threats -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Eric Beck wrote: > This demand that one justify one's actions continues to amaze me, > particularly its selective enforcement. Why should one have to know > the effects of one's actions beforehand? "Explain" would be nice. I've yet to hear how breaking the windows at Whole Foods advances the struggle. Myself, just to satisfy Carrol, I think it's somewhere between pointlessly silly to outright counterproductive. I'm all ears, though. Really. > Ah ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 9 09:19:37 PST 2011

1319 [lbo-talk] BB: fuck shit up, then leave -- rank: 1000

[via Lou Proyect] http://www.eastbayexpress.com/ebx/how-the-black-bloc-occupied-oakland/Content?oid=3036670 Then the group of Black Bloc demonstrators set fires. Their exact motivation for doing so wasn't clear. When Occupy medic Douglas Connor arrived shortly after 1 a.m. and asked what the fire was for, he got a matter-of-fact response from one of the protesters standing guard. "Fires help dissipate tear gas," the protester said. Apparently, they'd all read it somewhere in a protest ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 9 09:13:53 PST 2011

1320 [lbo-talk] black bloc -- rank: 1000

On Nov 9, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > I would like to hear what Ian has > to say on the actions of the Black Bloc in the Seattle protests. I was there and covered it extensively. They were a sideshow. The bourgeois press got all worked up over "violence," but it was no more than a few shattered windows. And they had nothing to do with planning the whole week, of course. They just jumped in with a "wheeeeeee!" Doug

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Date:	Wed Nov 9 08:41:21 PST 2011