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13006 [lbo-talk] Amnesty Report: Hezbollah War Crimes -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Eric wrote: > Your analogy assumes a pretty Orientalist view of "the" Lebanese > people; namely, that Hezbollah and the Lebanese are identical--they > are both "prisoners." So for you, Lebanon's citizens have no agency > themselves; they are merely the appendage of whatever state or > state-in-waiting you decide gets to represent them. Carrol loves to say outrageous shit, then to shrink from defending it when called on its absurdit ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 11:01:01 PDT 2006

13007 [lbo-talk] Amnesty Report: Hezbollah War Crimes -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Michael McIntyre wrote: > Fair enough Doug, but the argument that Hezbollah's attack were war > crimes would also lead one to the conclusion that the British > bombing campaign in WWII was a war crime (night bombing, which > reduced bombing accuracy so that the target became civilian > populations and nothing but). US daytime bombing was only a bit > more accurate. There is a serious case to be made that these WERE > war crimes. Elizabeth Ansc ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 10:48:02 PDT 2006

13008 [lbo-talk] Tony Judt on the death of liberalism in America -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Michael Pugliese wrote: > The Civil War in Nicaragua: Inside the Sandinistas (Paperback) by > Roger Miranda, Transaction Books. By a top aide to Tomas Borge in the > Defense Ministry. Informative acct. from the top, detailing numerous > instances of mismanagement. Mismanagement? Jesus Fucking Christ, Michael. It'd be hard enough to run a radical government as it is, but then you have to add to it a war launched against them by the USA. What do you expec ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 10:39:32 PDT 2006

13009 [lbo-talk] Tony Judt on the death of liberalism in America -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:10 PM, Michael Pugliese quoted: > some Contra "atrocity," Love the "quotes" around that. They were murderous thugs. And now you're recycling crap from a Moonie journal (The World & I) republished by the American Enterprise Institute?! Doug

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 10:19:32 PDT 2006

13010 [lbo-talk] Tony Judt on the death of liberalism in America -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Michael Pugliese wrote: > The Sam Dillon book, relates that by late '86, 5,000 political > opponents had been jailed, and 200,000 had been forced into 145 > "settlements" aka internment camps. So what do you do when you have armed enemies trying to overthrow you, backed by your government and mine? Invite them over for a friendly dinner party? Doug

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 10:17:29 PDT 2006

13011 [lbo-talk] Tony Judt on the death of liberalism in America -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 12:34 PM, Carl Remick wrote: >> From: "Colin Brace" <cb at lim.nl> >> >> Bush's Useful Idiots >> Tony Judt on the Strange Death of Liberal America >> >> full: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n18/judt01_.html > > Great article. Judt's filleting of cruise-missile liberals in the > LRB is certainly more impressive than the hatchet job on Marxism > that he does in the current NY Review of Books: <http:// > www.nyboo ...

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13012 [lbo-talk] Tony Judt on the death of liberalism in America -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Chuck wrote: > Are you saying that the fact that the Sandinistas didn't shoot > people is a reason for supporting them? How do we know that they > wouldn't start shooting opponents once they held power for a few > decades? How do we know that people wouldn't start shooting each other in the absence of a government? Doug

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 09:58:42 PDT 2006

13013 [lbo-talk] Tony Judt on the death of liberalism in America -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > It seems to me that this obsession a number on this list have with > various scalawag New York intellectuals (Berman, Hitchens) is a > manifestation of Manhattan parochialism. Hitchens lives in Washington, though I suppose it's all the same to folks in the cornfields. Doug

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13014 [lbo-talk] Amnesty Report: Hezbollah War Crimes -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Next we need an exposure of the war crimes committed by the > prisoners at > Buchenwald. Don't you always say that Nazi analogies are overheated & inaccurate? This analogy in particular is way off, since Israeli civilians are not comparable to SS members, unless you've joined the Little Eichmanns brigade. Doug

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13015 [lbo-talk] Housing bubble to burst? -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 11:42 AM, James Heartfield wrote: > The IMF warns Britain that its housing market is overvalued today - > just as the Citizens' Advice Bureau warns that record numbers of > younger house-owners risk eviction through missing their mortgage > re-payments. > > My book 'Let's Build! Why we need five million new homes in the > next 10 years' published later this month, explains why the > housing boom has not translated into a building boom. > It has in ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 09:48:58 PDT 2006

13016 [lbo-talk] WSJ poll: Bush up -- rank: 1000

[gotta love this classic split-the-difference thinking: "When offered a choice between a Republican who wants to maintain troop levels and a Democrat who wants to reduce them, voters choose the Democrat by a 53%-40% margin. If offered a choice between a Republican who wants to maintain troop levels and a Democrat seeking "immediate and orderly withdrawal," voters prefer the Republican by 48%-41%."] Wall Street Journal - September 14, 2006 Bush Gets a Lift From Emphasis O ...

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13017 [lbo-talk] GOP GOTV -- rank: 1000

Washington Post - September 14, 2006 In R.I., a Model for Voter Turnout Employing Senate Primary Strategy May Give GOP an Edge By Jim VandeHei and Chris Cillizza Washington Post Staff Writers The turnout campaign that Republican operatives used to help pull Sen. Lincoln D. Chafee to victory in the Rhode Island primary was a potent demonstration of how money and manpower can transform a race even in an unfavorable political environment -- and a preview of the strategy that national party offi ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 07:49:34 PDT 2006

13018 [lbo-talk] David Brook on the Mind of Bush -- rank: 1000

New York Times - September 14, 2006 Ends Without Means By DAVID BROOKS A leader s first job is to project authority, and George Bush certainly does that. In a 90-minute interview with a few columnists in the Oval Office on Tuesday, Bush swallowed up the room, crouching forward to energetically make a point or spreading his arms wide to illustrate the scope of his ideas always projecting confidence and intensity. He opened the session by declaring, Let me just first tell you that I ve ne ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 07:43:33 PDT 2006

13019 [lbo-talk] Tony Judt on the death of liberalism in America -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Chuck wrote: > They held government power, didn't they? They enacted their ideas > using the power of the government. This clearly makes them > authoritarians. It would be news to many people that the > Sandinistas were anti-authoritarians who were somehow using their > government for anti-authoritarian goals. Are there no degrees of authoritarianism in your view of governments? Are they all domineering brutes? Sandinistas didn't shoot their opponen ...

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Date:	Thu Sep 14 07:36:50 PDT 2006

13020 [lbo-talk] Niall Ferguson bewails US imperial decline -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Charles Brown wrote: > They couldn't dump huge quantities of US paper, no, but that's > unlikely to happen. Debt is rarely ever "collected" - big companies > either roll over their debts and even borrow some more, and countries > just roll over their debts in perpetuity. > > ^^^^^ > CB: I hear this( and with respect to U.S. domestic debt too ?), and > I never > quite understand it. Doesn't this mean in effect that the lender > ...

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