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12811 [lbo-talk] The Death of Classical Music (da capo, con brio) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 4, 2007, at 1:16 PM, joanna wrote: > Michael J. Smith wrote > >> >> Bach -- at least the complicated Bach -- is more complicated >> than anything, but there are plenty of composers we call "classical" >> whose stuff is structurally very simple. Take Vivaldi (please!). >> > Now, now. Bach loved Vivaldi's music; he transposed a lot of Vivaldi's > music to the Organ and Vivaldi's influence on his own music was quite > salutary -- as the ...

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12812 [lbo-talk] Not A Very Nice Man -- rank: 1000

On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Michael Perelman wrote: > Even critics of George Bush from Texas seem to suggest that he > is very personable. Sometimes. But he can also be a mean asshole. An old pal of mine who was an economist in a Texas econ development agency saw him offstage making fun of a guy delivering a eulogy at a funeral. Now, he reportedly bursts into obscene rages. And all those nicknames are a form of aggression and dominance. I don't see Rove's nickname, "Turd Blossom ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 4 09:22:54 PDT 2007

12813 [lbo-talk] reaching out to the spiritually inclined -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - April 4, 2007 Religious Read THEY don't call him Christopher "Hellbound" Hitchens for nothing. The heretic who attacked Mother Teresa in "Missionary Position" is at it again with "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything," hitting bookstores next month. The jeremiad, reports The Post's Kyle Smith, is a merciless attack on every faith - dryly called "ecumenical" by its editor, Jonathan Karp, who is making it the seco ...

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12814 [lbo-talk] The Death of Classical Music (da capo, con brio) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 4, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > As far as music (if not sex) is concerned, the doing part has been > increasingly outsourced. A new international division of labor in > classical music may be that China plays and the West listens. As the article points out, the Chinese are now moving in where Japanese and Koreans have long been present. It's pretty interesting that these rising Asian powers want to master the Western musical tradition. What would all the " ...

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12815 [lbo-talk] The Death of Classical Music (da capo, con brio) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:24 PM, Michael J. Smith wrote: > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 10:09 pm, Dennis Claxton wrote: >> But punk rock and >> classical are different, no? > > How? Not to be a smartass --but I think we make a lot of > unexamined assumptions when we talk about this stuff. With punk rock, you can pick up a guitar and a few months later start a band. Try that with the Well-Tempered Clavier. Doug

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12816 [lbo-talk] The Death of Classical Music (da capo, con brio) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 6:18 PM, Michael J. Smith wrote: > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 05:52 am, Colin Brace wrote: > >> But for how much longer will this be true? A century on, fewer and >> fewer classical records are being made. > > I couldn't be more pleased. Recordings are to music what the Olympics > are to sports -- a very bad thing. Oh please. I love being able to hear the music I like when I want to. I don't want to wait until your amateur bass is available to hear Th ...

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12817 [lbo-talk] SEIU membership -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Mark Rickling wrote: > If by "traditional" you mean contested NLRB election, then you're > right. Also, homecare and childcare workers don't fit the traditional > white, male industrial worker demographic many have in mind when they > think of the working class. I guess for some this means they're not > *real* workers, but I doubt anyone on this list would make that > argument. I most certainly would not make that argument, and I'd contempl ...

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12818 [lbo-talk] The Death of Classical Music (da capo, con, brio) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > Classical music's keepers haven't done a very good job of > engaging with people for some time. You're supposed to like > classical music because it's good for you? That's not a very > inviting reason. What's better? I grew up enchanted by that old ham Leonard Bernstein's TV shows. You mean that sort of thing? Doug

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12819 [lbo-talk] The Death of Classical Music (da capo, con brio) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> On Apr 3, 2007, at 5:52 AM, Colin Brace quoted: >> >>> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/story/0,,2048916,00.html >>> >>> Vanishing acts >>> Martin Kettle >>> >> >>> What went wrong was partly the glut: with 435 versions available, >>> who >>> needs number 436? >> >> More than partly. > > This is just a ...

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12820 [lbo-talk] The Death of Classical Music (da capo, con brio) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 2:05 PM, joanna wrote: > Doug Henwood wrote: > >> >> More than partly. By the mid-1960s, recording technology had gotten >> very good, and things from the 1950s weren't so bad either. So we've >> got 40 or 50 years of very high quality performances of what is a >> large but nonetheless limited canon. Do we really need contemporary >> re-interpretations of the minor works of Telemann? >> > Well, the short answer is yes. Every g ...

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12821 [lbo-talk] Nixon: too drunk to talk -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - April 3, 2007 Nixon Too Boozed For War PRESIDENT Richard M. Nixon was so drunk one night after the Yom Kippur War broke out in 1973 that his secretary of state, Henry Kissinger, wouldn't allow him to take a call from the British prime minister. The story is told in 20,000 pages of telephone transcripts and nearly 1 million pages of national security records gone over for the last four years by historian Robert Dallek, whose new book, "Nixon and Kissinger: Pa ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 3 10:07:30 PDT 2007

12822 [lbo-talk] merely cultural -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > It's from Lenin's little-known pamphlet "Thinking: an > Infantile Leftwing Disorder." :) As I recall the quote from Lenin, he condemned "a vulgar and unprincipled eclecticism," not eclecticism itself. Doug

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12823 [lbo-talk] SEIU membership -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Mark Rickling wrote: > Looking at your time frame, on December 31, 2000 SEIU had 1,402,798 > members, while on June 30, 2006 SEIU 1,740,022 members. These numbers > are rigorous in the sense that they're based on per cap membership > assessments. Also, increases in membership are not the same as the > number of workers organized. Oone might greet self-reported numbers with some degree of skepticism. Various religious denominations always claim more me ...

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12824 [lbo-talk] The Death of Classical Music (da capo, con brio) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Colin Brace wrote: > On 4/3/07, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> The bigger problem might be that younger people are not taking up >> classical music, and even boomers rarely listen to it except as >> upscale mood music. That's sad, but aside from blasting out some old- >> fartism, I don't know what to say about that. > > I have no data to draw on and can't make generalizations, but here in > the 'nether' p ...

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12825 [lbo-talk] merely cultural -- rank: 1000

On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Charles Brown wrote: > Marxism is not eccletic. Says who? You? Carrol? The Marx who wasn't a Marxist? Where do you guys get the cojones to issue proclamations like this? Doug

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