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12601 [lbo-talk] Rethinking Liberalism -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Jim Straub wrote: > While appealing to left theology and dogma, this strategy > (which has been the main one used by all tendencies of the US left for > decades) shrinks and isolates the left at all turns possible. > Thanks to > this way of thinking, we are the generation that has brought the > left to its > smallest state since the terms were first invented in the french > revolution. > > The left in the US, by being unwilling to ally w ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Apr 20 16:48:26 PDT 2007

12602 [lbo-talk] Rethinking liberalism -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2007, at 5:41 PM, turbulo at aol.com wrote: > The Spartacist League, that's who! Go back and read Workers > Vanguard for 1979. The SL engaged in a furious polemic against the > rest of the left for its rhapsodizing over Khomeini and the > mullahs. Whatever you think of this outfit (and I don't hold them > in high esteem) I've fallen behind on reading Workers Vanguard, but there can be some great stuff in the paper. Glad to hear they got that one right. They had Lech W ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 14:52:31 PDT 2007

12603 [lbo-talk] gender & work time -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Gar Lipow wrote: > WOJ's point on falsification is a good one, and essentially an > amplification of K's point. Yeah, these are all valid objections, but it's interesting that despite similar data from many countries around the world, some people think they just *know* otherwise. Sometimes the things that people "know" just aren't true. Doug

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 13:37:12 PDT 2007

12604 [lbo-talk] limbo itself now in limbo -- rank: 1000

Pope revises 'limbo' for babies By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 31 minutes ago VATICAN CITY - Pope Benedict XVI has revised traditional Roman Catholic teaching on so-called "limbo," approving a church report released Friday that said there was reason to hope that babies who die without baptism can go to heaven. Benedict approved the findings of the International Theological Commission, which issued its long-awaited document on limbo on Origins, the documentary ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 13:16:21 PDT 2007

12605 [lbo-talk] Rethinking Liberalism (was IWW piece on Iranian labor situation) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2007, at 3:16 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Doug probably agrees with Fred Halliday that leftists should line up > with liberals, even if they are imperialists ("Cooler Elites"), > against religious, anti-imperialist populists who are fundamentally or > may become illiberals: > > The events of 1979 bring out what was, in my view, > the central avoidable error of most of the Iranian Left -- > its catastrophic stand on 'liberalism'. In re ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 12:54:21 PDT 2007

12606 [lbo-talk] gender & work time -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:06 PM, bitch at pulpculture.org wrote: > Moreover, it also depends on what kind of work we're talking. If > you just > talk normal "chores" you leave out a whole bunch of stuff that > people don't > consider such as "caring work" and "emotional work" (see Arlie > Hochschild's > work). About that, the authors say: > The fact [i.e. the equality of work time] is thus not new in the > sociology literature, although it is ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 12:35:25 PDT 2007

12607 [lbo-talk] gender & work time -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Gar Lipow wrote: > On 4/20/07, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: >> This is based on time-diaries, not self-reports: > > Well a time diary is a form of self-reporting, but that is semantics. > More to the point I doubt time diaries are filled out as the work is > done. I filled out an arbitron diary once, and I did not track my > listening as it happened, but reconstructed from memory they day > before mailing it. Anecdotal ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 12:30:05 PDT 2007

12608 [lbo-talk] gender & work time -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:06 PM, bitch at pulpculture.org wrote: > in the lit on the topic, it's well-known that there's a disparity > between > self-reports, like this study, and observation. That is, men say > they do X > hours of work, their wives report that their partners do X hours of > work, > and then through third party observations and diary studies This is based on time-diaries, not self-reports: <http://www.nber.org/papers/w13000> ABSTRACT Using time-diary data ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 11:33:57 PDT 2007

12609 [lbo-talk] IWW piece on Iranian labor situation -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: > Yoshie: > > > No, he's just honest. Ideas and sentiments like his, in favor of > colonialism and imperialism, were once quite common* among Western > > [WS:] Oh absolutely. I honestly thing that all this talk about > imperialism > is either cover up for the authoritarianism, corruption and > ineptitude of > Third World governments, or silly contumacy of blasé Western > intellectuals > who say it to ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 09:02:42 PDT 2007

12610 [lbo-talk] it's ok to kill an unmarried couple walking together -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > It's far easier to defend the government of Iran Why is that necessary? Why can't you acknowledge that the regime is awful - a position many Iranians would agree with? It doesn't mean you endorse an invasion. Instead you end up defending legally sanctioned religious murder. Doug

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 08:33:49 PDT 2007

12611 [lbo-talk] Hitch's new pals: Manhattan Institute and Frontpage - and Kipling -- rank: 1000

<http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_2_urbanities- thomas_jefferson.html>, reprinted at <http://frontpagemag.com/ Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=27956> Jefferson Versus the Muslim Pirates Christopher Hitchens America s first confrontation with the Islamic world helped forge a new nation s character [...] And then, finally, there is principle. It would be simplistic to say that something innate in America made it incompatible with slavery and tyranny. But would it be too much to claim ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 20 08:32:02 PDT 2007

12612 [lbo-talk] Cooler Elites - a story of accommodation to the bourgeoisie -- rank: 1000

The Nation - May 7, 2007 <http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070507/henwood> Cooler Elites by DOUG HENWOOD When the rich and powerful gathered for their annual meeting at Davos in January, at the World Economic Forum, climate change was on their collective minds. Signs reading Make Green Pay served as a backdrop for the usual panels, featuring CEOs and high-end pundits holding forth on global finance and the terrorist threat. And, participants say, global warming was the number-one topic ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 19 19:57:16 PDT 2007

12613 [lbo-talk] NYT poll: Youth support war & Bush more than their elders -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:51 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: > It's worth remembering, too -- over against the myth of "college > radicals" and the Vietnam war -- that in the 1960s support for the US > government's war against Vietnam was directly (not inversely) > proportional to years of formal education. I.e., American > education was > doing its job: the more of it you had, the more likely you were to > support what Kennedy-Johnson-Nixon were doing to SE Asia. Mutatis ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 19 15:47:37 PDT 2007

12614 [lbo-talk] NYT poll: Youth support war & Bush more than their elders -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > [Interestingly, it seems this was also true during Vietnam. That > seems a > little brain bending.] A blast from the past...from a NYT editorial, January 5, 1968: "At the Florida [AFL-CIO] convention union officials who dissented from Administration policy were accused by George Meany of having plotted their strategy in Hanoi."

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Date:	Thu Apr 19 13:31:19 PDT 2007

12615 [lbo-talk] John McCain sings "Bomb Iran!" -- rank: 1000

Imagine if some Iranian questioner had asked "when do we send them an airmail message?" and a prominent politician responded by breaking into song & laughter! <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7c7_1176993322>

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