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1261 [lbo-talk] Why not Paul -- rank: 1000

On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Shane Mage wrote: > On Nov 29, 2011, at 9:08 AM, James Heartfield wrote: > >> Re. Lee Harvey Oswald: is it so unbelievable that Oswald was sincere in his wish to shoot Kennedy? > > Yes. Totally unbelievable. If he had had such a "wish" (more than dubious!) he would have done what anyone who is proud of accomplishing a great wish does. He would have bragged about it, instead of reducing his own role to the shameful one of a mere patsy. S ...

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Date:	Tue Nov 29 07:23:42 PST 2011

1262 [lbo-talk] the idiocy of American politics -- rank: 1000

[From Mike Allen's Politico Playbook] SIREN -- OUT AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT - "Playbook 2012: The Right Fights Back," the first installment in our series of eBook narratives going behind the scenes of the campaigns. Written for Random House by Mike Allen and Evan Thomas, conceived and edited by Jon Meacham, with the generous insights of JMart. This is the Newsweek post-election project, in real time for a digital age. --20 THINGS YOU'LL LEARN: The biggest single difference in Mitt Romney's ...

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Date:	Tue Nov 29 05:42:49 PST 2011

1263 [lbo-talk] Why not Paul -- rank: 1000

On Nov 28, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Shane Mage wrote: > an unidentified man that he called "Osama Bin Laden" I bet you have some interesting theories of who killed JFK too.

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Date:	Mon Nov 28 13:10:12 PST 2011

1264 [lbo-talk] DSK framed by Sarkozy? -- rank: 1000

Ok, it's the old friend of James J Angleton, but interesting: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/dec/22/what-really-happened-dominique-strauss-kahn/?pagination=false

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Date:	Sat Nov 26 10:38:02 PST 2011

1265 [lbo-talk] Katha Pollitt on college football -- rank: 1000

On Nov 24, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Alan Rudy wrote: > Yet I am pretty sure Dave Zirin doesn't want college sports, even Div.1 > college sports, abolished... his take is generally that sports mirror > society which indicates the need for social change more'n the elimination > of sports. Calling for the abolition of college sports is such a total loser. Why make enemies you don't have to? It's just not a fight worth having. Yeah, too commercialized. Everything is too commercialized. But tha ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 24 09:26:58 PST 2011

1266 [lbo-talk] Questions from before the Global Minotaur... -- rank: 1000

On Nov 24, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > Wojtek writes: > >> Art is another victim of the market, if you will. > > And this is different from the time, of, say, Caravaggio? > > Artists have always been dependent on patrons, this is nothing new. THe patron-client relationship is very personal. The artist-market one, less so. Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 24 09:22:31 PST 2011

1267 [lbo-talk] Questions from before the Global Minotaur... -- rank: 1000

On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Miles Jackson wrote: > Doug Henwood wrote: > >> On Nov 22, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Miles Jackson wrote: >> >>> On 11/22/2011 3:51 AM, Wojtek S wrote: >>> >>>> I am not an American, so I wonder what I am missing here. Can someone provide any evidence of the merits of his [Warhol's] art? >>> I've got nothing >>> >> >> He's fun. No? > > So is drinking tequila shots. Then I throw up. Don't dr ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 23 15:08:30 PST 2011

1268 [lbo-talk] Testing one two three -- rank: 1000

On Nov 23, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > And boycotting testing, even if collectively organized, would remain for > each individual student a solitary individualist act, threatening his/her > future while not affecting anything in the world. How is an organized boycott - part of a movement with explicit goals - a solitary individualist act? Are you just being contrary again? Doug

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Date:	Wed Nov 23 11:52:41 PST 2011

1269 [lbo-talk] Questions from before the Global Minotaur... -- rank: 1000

On Nov 22, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Miles Jackson wrote: > On 11/22/2011 3:51 AM, Wojtek S wrote: >> I am not an American, so I wonder what I am missing here. Can someone provide any evidence of the merits of his [Warhol's] art? > > I've got nothing He's fun. No?

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Date:	Tue Nov 22 18:40:36 PST 2011

1270 [lbo-talk] Questions from before the Global Minotaur... -- rank: 1000

On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: >>>> Warhol got somebody else to do the work. >>> So did Sol LeWitt. >> >> So did Rodin. > > So did Rembrandt. One of those jackass Brit artists that Julian Stallabrass wrote about in High Art Lite - Damien Hirst I think - made a "sculpture" out of cigarette butts he accumulated while hanging out in the Drones Club as his assistants executed his art back in his studio. Doug

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Date:	Mon Nov 21 13:37:09 PST 2011

1271 [lbo-talk] Occupy Yourself Fashion Show -- rank: 1000

On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:20 PM, c b wrote: > That's me on the lower left of the picture to the left of the ramp > with fedora hat an green coat. Charles! You in a fashion show? When we met, you were clad in a way that would almost demand a humane intervention. Doug

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Date:	Mon Nov 21 09:31:04 PST 2011

1272 [lbo-talk] Another great interview -- rank: 1000

On Nov 19, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > Doug's Saturday interview with Frances Fox Piven was great, and a full hour.Find it on today's archive at KPFA or probably later on Doug's radio archive. Glued to it... Thanks. Fran is a treasure.

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Date:	Sat Nov 19 12:55:52 PST 2011

1273 [lbo-talk] Fearing for their safety, Sizzlean Pepper Spray Students -- rank: 1000

On Nov 19, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Andy wrote: > After which the cops are shown the door -- really amazing: > > http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/11/19/police-pepper-spray-ows-student-protestors-directly-in-their-faces-at-occupy-davis/ That's amazing indeed. By the way, this is the cop: UC Davis Campus Police Lieutenant John Pike 530 752 3989 japikeiii at ucdavis.edu 4005 Cowell Blvd, Apt 616 Davis, CA 95618-6017

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Date:	Sat Nov 19 07:24:01 PST 2011

1274 [lbo-talk] A Note on the Middle 75% -- rank: 1000

On Nov 18, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > For years until I lost my eyesight I read every page of two publications: > Prison Legal News and Left Business Observer. Had I eyes I would still be > reading both. > > The prison system has the same corrupting influence on U.S. life that the > Vietnam War and Jim Crow had. You simply cannot seriously oppose capitalism > without calling for the elimination of U.S. prisons. This is what I don't get. Mass imprisonment is one of ...

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Date:	Fri Nov 18 19:39:45 PST 2011

1275 [lbo-talk] A Note on the Middle 75% -- rank: 1000

On Nov 18, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Michael Smith wrote: >>> For example, there are few better >>> slogans with which to reach those of the 75% (who can be reached) than >>> Abolish the Prison System. >> >> That's an extremely curious point of view. Do you have some evidence >> for this, or does it just sound good? > > It's an extremely interesting claim. Without in the least > seconding the snide tone -- the characteristically snide tone, > I'm ...

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